Why aren’t you banning the far-right agitators?

[GoldMedallist]

Deleting their posts but allowing them to keep inciting racial hatred under the same accounts is making the site unusable. Why should we keep reporting them if you’re not going to do anything meaningful about it?

Yes. Horrendous posts.

And are allowed to stand. Why?

Dancingmonkeyfeet · 30/07/2024 12:03
Can you give examples?

Most have been deleted. As you know.

Thank you. This gives me pause for thought. You're right that we shouldn't let them take the site over. But I need to find a better way of managing my own responses because it is having a really negative impact on me at the moment.

I have a feeling that poster is no longer with us.

Very well said. If I, as a white woman, feel so defeated and ready to leave, how must those members who are not white feel right now?

Yes. I'm sure that most are sadly used to dealing with racism but the level of bile recently has been out of control. It must be incredibly alienating.

My young adult dd is mixed race. Obviously she isn't on MN but I know that she has felt increasingly alienated by what she sees on the news and what she sees on social media.

I can't even begin to imagine how it must feel for young people from Muslim backgrounds to see so much hate directed towards them.

I feel so angry on behalf of all of our children and young people. What sort of society will they be inheriting?

That's good... how can you tell?

I might be wrong! Just a hunch as they have gone quiet. Maybe they are busy on other threads, though.

I really hope the law is tightened up to the extent that sites like this, and Facebook and Twitter/X of course are sanctioned with criminal proceedings for allowing hate speech to stand.

VerySadCase · Today 12:50
Uricon2 · Today 12:09
I am really concerned about the many MNers who are not white British reading the hate speech that's been posted over the last few days. It's their site too.

Yes. I'm sure that most are sadly used to dealing with racism but the level of bile recently has been out of control. It must be incredibly alienating

Agree. It must be awful just trying to go about your life in this toxic environment.
I usually smile and say hello to everyone anyway but I’m really making sure I do atm.

I remember once, on the Nicola Bulley threads, someone posted a photo of a boat building place, I think, near the river. The name was clearly evident. They then proceeded to pass on some spurious claim that someone dodgy worked there…had it been searched etc.

I screen shot it and messaged MN that if it wasn’t removed I would email it to the company, giving them the evidence to take legal action with.

Yep. Or might have name changed.

To be fair, I post under multiple names on here as I don't like to put too much personal information under the same name, so can't really criticise!!

I was thinking back to the foundation of the Anti Nazi League and the fact Brian Clough, Sir Henry Cooper and Jackie Charlton helped to found it (including financial aid)

All from working class backgrounds and renowned and respected in their sporting fields back then, not politicians but ready to stand up and be counted. I really feel that their contribution and support, the fact they spoke out, made a difference and it would now if people of a similar stature these days did the same, a clear unequivocal line in the sand against hate.

@VerySadCase - sometimes I have a spell when I just don't read threads if I can tell by their title that I don't have the energy for them. I know that at any time there will be lots of other posters who can. Sometimes I read and report rather than investing time and emotional energy posting.
I'm able to engage at the moment - we don't all have to all the time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cl4y0453nv5o

Bbc article about online activities

Thank you. Good advice.

Sometimes I find it difficult to walk away because the shit that people are posting so obviously needs to be challenged. Leaving it almost feels complicit.. the virtual equivalent of a shoulder shrug. It feels so wrong. But you're right, others will be there to challenge. And self preservation is also important.

I'm noticing now that BBC headlines showing that the riots and the preceding social media comments are being organised by EDL.

There needs to be much more control over social media. Why are the likes of Tommy Robinson allowed to even have accounts on Twitter? We all know what he stands for so why does he still have a platform? Surely if there is even a hint of people stirring up trouble, they just need to be barred for life.

There need to be whopping great fines on social media platforms where there is evidence of people having used them to incite riots.

Must read properly. Far right alligators are a scary prospect.

Far right alligators would indeed 🐊

Totally agree but Twitter has gone to shit since that idiot Musk took over.

I’m tempted to ask if that is the case why were the Southport rioters shouting out EDL?

Good point and one to remember!