FWR clarification; deletion and strikes

[ItsLateHumpty]

Hey MNHQ

(I’m) Back on site stuff from FWR to talk to you because either we’re not understanding the rules or the rules have changed and we’ve not changed with them.

There seems to be a marked increase in all thread rather than suspect post deletion.
Or regular posters getting posts deleted but not sure why.
Or you acknowledge ‘not in faith’ posters and delete a whole thread, even though there’s been some very good discussion.
And we don’t know if we’re on a ‘strike’ deletion or not 😬

Totally appreciate you guys do a difficult job, and sometimes between a rock and a hard place! but if the rules sticky was updated or deletions were explained, we’d stop tripping over our own feet which causes you extra admin work.

Can you help us?

What humpty said

Is there any way the deletion message could be a little more descriptive at least?

Especially as some people like to twist deletions to suit their agenda

Hi OP,

Thanks for getting in touch.

The guidelines haven’t changed - and if a poster has a question about a deletion or a specific query about the guidelines, we'd advise asking us. We're always happy to clarify.

If we issue a ‘strike’ then we will always be in touch with the user directly and will clarify why the post was removed.

To be honest

When ive asked why ive been deleted I’ve always had a reply...well except once i think when i had to ask twice but thats fair enough

But i have heard that other posters haven’t had the same experience and no one has told them the reason

I don’t understand how people are expected to change and not do it again...if they don’t know what theyve done in the first place

Sorry lily i took ages to type mine and you’d posted first

The guidelines haven’t changed

I think they have

That biscuit thingy means no comment

And someone posted it and they were deleted for breaking talk guidelines

When all they were saying was no comment...they didnt say anything else

I dont think ive ever used the biscuit thingy

But how am i supposed to know if i can use it when i might be deleted?

I prefer the humphy face...

Oh and do you know what...in for a penny in for a pound and all that

People have been deleted for saying things that weren’t even against talk guidelines when they were originally posted...and get a strike

How is that fair

I have been deleted for using a well used phrase which is not banned - or at least wasn't banned when I used it. I don't think it is now listed as banned in the talk guidelines. I have also twice emailed MNHQ to ask for clarification about these deletions and had no response.

As I understand it, deletions are made in response to reports. So the more reports there are the more likely a thread or post is to be deleted. MN has always been a self-moderating site.

So the more reports there are the more likely a thread or post is to be deleted.

Well that makes no sense. Surely it does not matter HOW MANY reports, if they are all unfounded?

You would think wouldn't you Jellyfish? But I suppose if MNHQ think lots of posters are offended by a post/ thread then it's better for it to go.

@RufustheSniggeringReindeer

Oh and do you know what...in for a penny in for a pound and all that

People have been deleted for saying things that weren’t even against talk guidelines when they were originally posted...and get a strike

How is that fair

Hi Rufus,

This has happened - yes, but we always revoke the strike when we've messed up the time of posts. If we've missed something, we're always happy to go over our decisions.

@Mollscroll

I have been deleted for using a well used phrase which is not banned - or at least wasn't banned when I used it. I don't think it is now listed as banned in the talk guidelines. I have also twice emailed MNHQ to ask for clarification about these deletions and had no response.

Hello,

I've just had a look - I can't see any mails to MNHQ from your address.
Would you be able to try sending us one now, so we can see if there's an issue with receiving mails from your account?

Thank you for the reply lily

I had a deletion on the MAP thread and I do t know why.

I didn’t ask MN as I wasn’t sure how to do that as I dont know the @

@Deliriumoftheendless

I had a deletion on the MAP thread and I do t know why.

I didn’t ask MN as I wasn’t sure how to do that as I dont know the @

Hello!

You can just report the deleted post to us - in the box, you can ask why it was deleted and we'll let you know.

Thanks Lily

I'd like to know why there's an ongoing TAAT in the form of the Bunbury threads and why that's ok?

I’ve replied to the email you have sent me

Thanks for the reply Lily. I’d have to go back through my emails, but I’m pretty sure when I’ve asked about a deletion I was quoted the talk guidelines and still couldn’t see what rule I’d broken.

We’ve also had deletions for posting just the word “yawn”, the biscuit emoji as a RufustheSniggeringReindeer so eloquently explained 😋 and I was deleted for explaining what the grey rock method was, etc.

This is where my confusion comes, so if you’ve any more info on how we avoid deletions for what seems fairly innocuous posts it would help.

Cheers

so if you’ve any more info on how we avoid deletions for what seems fairly innocuous posts it would help

Well this ones easy

Don’t post them on FWR

😱😂😂😂🤪😘

True although I got deleted on AIBU for very innocuous wording. As soon as a thread gets traction reports start coming in. I think MNHQ should think about how they deal with clearly targeted reporting. We can name change although shouldn’t have to.

When people start reporting emoji its clearly 💩

😩