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Hq - please explain why some topics cannot be discussed ?

224 replies

itsthefuture · 17/04/2020 22:34

Just that hq.

I had posted about dispatches documentary aired 15/4/20

Clearly I cannot say what about.

I have drawn parallels to the cse scandal with certain elements of society grooming children.
That's a fact
And widely discussed now on the boards.
I work I law and have brought many of those perpetrators to justice.
I think had I listed about that issue 15 years ago I would have been told I was being racist an shit down , just as I an now in trying to talk about another minority group and their links to crime .

Why can this. It be discussed openly?
Why do my posts keep getting deleted despite the evidence?

It seems mn is very jumpy about allowing discussion around certain topics . Why? Why can we
Not discuss the facts around travellers sites and crime ?
Why can I not talk about a documentary aired last night around this very topic !? Please explain. This is not a thread about a thread . I'm just curious as to why some topics are taboo and taken down ? Hindsight has shown us that there are lessons to be learnt about certain elements of society regarding crime.
Why is it ok to talk about some things and not others ?
Thanks

OP posts:
imcockerhoop · 19/04/2020 00:43

Runnerduck

Also thank you.

HeIsAVeryBadBoy · 19/04/2020 00:54

I get it imcockerhoop but I think that unfortunately, a lot of people feel the need to attack people who bring it up, as a sort of virtue signalling competition.

I don't know how it can be sorted out with these sorts of social barriers to discussion in place. So Rotherham will happen again and again. It's sad and just puts the victims last. And problems in the travelling community are extremely hard to tackle because culturally, they don't like outside interference.

Before any hard of thinking types jump on me, I'm not saying that those problems only exist in travelling communities, just that they are trickier in some ways, to deal with.

imcockerhoop · 19/04/2020 00:57

It is very tricky. I've never dealt with any minority more closed and private, not to mention anti establishment.

imcockerhoop · 19/04/2020 00:59

Victims should not be last . That's my stand on this. Yes I agree that virtue signalling is more important to many and being seen to be "right on" is more important- and I find that difficult.

imcockerhoop · 19/04/2020 01:01

I would just say to anyone who is angry at what I've said to watch this weeks dispatches documentary and think for themselves.

MissHoskins · 19/04/2020 01:05

@itsthefuture
How many more sock puppets will you bring in to support your racist views. You name changed within your thread. That's not a good look if you want to be taken seriously.
You may possibly be right in that some forms of political correctness have hindered criminal investigations in the U.K. I think that this has been accepted in some cases.
Yes Bore worked this out, I have a great deal of faith in Bore. Bye.

TheMagiciansMewTwo · 19/04/2020 01:06

There's something very distasteful about you rehashing this in site stuff and trying to manipulate the Rothetham crisis to try to justify your racism. You had the perfect opportunity to both reflect and educate yourself but instead you did this.
With every post you prove that you don't care about Rotherham, abuse or minorities. It's all about you.

imcockerhoop · 19/04/2020 01:15

I said I had name changed so to
Avoid sock puppetry allegations. If you choose to believe I have posted as anyone other than its the future and I'm cockerhoop please report so mn hq can investigate.

I care very deeply about the victims cse in Rotherham because I've worked with many of them.

Which is precisely why I don't think it's healthy to pretend certain crimes aren't associated with certain factions of society. It just closes down any conversation and allows behaviour to continue unchecked for fear of being shouted down , called racist (or of low Iq, a liar, a fantasist, a drunk , ....any I've forgotten?)

imcockerhoop · 19/04/2020 01:21

Hesabadboy and runnerduck- would you care to let the mn police know you are not me name changing please?

If anyone actually believes that guff then a simple report to mn will disprove that allegation. They can see who is who.

Its terribly desperate to say that out of the many posters here the only two showing any support must be me under a different name.😂

You truly are desperate aren't you ?

OhCaptain · 19/04/2020 01:36

Again. Your thread is still here. Which sort of nullifies your claim that you’re being shut down, doesn’t it?

So - thread resolved, no?

imcockerhoop · 19/04/2020 01:37

Not really as this was the third attempt. All previous attempts to discuss this were deleted.

OhCaptain · 19/04/2020 01:39

Blatant racism and goady threads are often deleted so what does that tell you?

imcockerhoop · 19/04/2020 01:42

And there are some truly ridiculous attempts to totally discredit anything I say.
Low iq.
Liar about profession
No command of English.
English not first language
Racist.
Belligerent
Drunk
And now I should just shut up and be grateful because this thread survived?

Im not the one having a laugh here .

imcockerhoop · 19/04/2020 01:45

Captain

This is not a goady thread or racist. I want to be able to talk freely about a truth . The dispatches documentary highlighted an issue that I've seen first hand .
I'm actually betting that most of those shouting me down do not have any experience around the issue or have worked with travellers? Or seen first hand the issues? It's just easier to shout and call me names .

OhCaptain · 19/04/2020 01:48

Sigh.

This thread was you asking HQ why some things couldn’t be discussed.

You were told that they can, in fact, be discussed.

So start a thread that’s not goady and not racist and there won’t be an issue, will there? 🤷🏻‍♀️

imcockerhoop · 19/04/2020 01:49

Sigh

Captain I rather think you have missed the point .

OhCaptain · 19/04/2020 01:51

No, I haven’t. I can just see through your faux innocent protestations.

If I’ve missed the point then explain it to me.

You asked a question and you got your answer.

But worse, you’re tip-toeing around want you really want to say. So stop with the ambiguity and come out and say it. If it’s nit racist or goady, it’ll stay put.

imcockerhoop · 19/04/2020 01:54

If your nits are racist I can recommend suitable treatments .

I'm definitely nit racist. Little bastards.

👍

imcockerhoop · 19/04/2020 01:56

See how easy typos are ? I doubt it means a low IQ.

OhCaptain · 19/04/2020 01:57

Wow - a second typo in all of my posts compared to your barely coherent rambling in your OP?

Yeah, you got me. 🙄

imcockerhoop · 19/04/2020 02:00

Barely coherent rambling? Really?

I think I would challenge that .

OhCaptain · 19/04/2020 02:01

Well, you would, wouldn’t you?! 😂

NoSquirrels · 19/04/2020 02:04

This is not a goady thread or racist. I want to be able to talk freely about a truth

‘Truth’ is rather a disputed concept!

That documentary portrayed an extremely one-sided, poorly evidenced account. C4 have form with making pretty shitty anti-Traveller programming. You’re suffering from confirmation bias - seeing something that’s confirmed your prejudice.

It’s an ‘acceptable’ form of racism. It stinks.

Your thread is here, up for discussion, and MNHQ confirmed your previous threads were pulled for making racist generalisations.

The comparisons to Rotherham I find in particularly poor taste. Much like that documentary, to be honest.

imcockerhoop · 19/04/2020 02:07

Well squirrel if truth is a disputed concept then I guess everything anyone says her is open to the same scrutiny.

imcockerhoop · 19/04/2020 02:08

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