Hq - please explain why some topics cannot be discussed ?

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Just that hq.

I had posted about dispatches documentary aired 15/4/20

Clearly I cannot say what about.

I have drawn parallels to the cse scandal with certain elements of society grooming children.
That's a fact
And widely discussed now on the boards.
I work I law and have brought many of those perpetrators to justice.
I think had I listed about that issue 15 years ago I would have been told I was being racist an shit down , just as I an now in trying to talk about another minority group and their links to crime .

Why can this. It be discussed openly?
Why do my posts keep getting deleted despite the evidence?

It seems mn is very jumpy about allowing discussion around certain topics . Why? Why can we
Not discuss the facts around travellers sites and crime ?
Why can I not talk about a documentary aired last night around this very topic !? Please explain. This is not a thread about a thread . I'm just curious as to why some topics are taboo and taken down ? Hindsight has shown us that there are lessons to be learnt about certain elements of society regarding crime.
Why is it ok to talk about some things and not others ?
Thanks

I think the tradition is to withdraw girls at a later stage than that.

From the guardian:

The mental age of an average adult Gypsy is thought to be about that of a child of 10," said the 1959 edition of the Encyclopaedia Britannica, 14 years after the end of the Nazi genocide of Romany Gypsies. This week new analysis of the 2011 census has been released by the Office for National Statistics. It revealed that of the 58,000 people who identified themselves as being of Gypsy/Traveller ethnicity, 60% had no formal qualifications whatsoever

I've avoided any right wing rags . I don't understand why this is out of bounds for discussion.

I don't t actually believe qualifications mean much - but there is a family business for many and that includes some aspects that are criminal. I'm sorry- but that is my experience. I'd by lying to say anything else 🤷🏻‍♀️

It’s not out of bounds, clearly, since your thread is still here.

And that's great. Because a discussion needs to be had .

I'm sorry- but that is my experience. I'd by lying to say anything else

Your posting as though people are arguing or challenging you. Nobody is.

You started the thread saying you couldn’t discuss travellers, you’re continuing to discuss it.

But nobody is engaging with you much or arguing. So what exactly are you on about?!

Because a discussion needs to be had

Why?

Are you reading the same thread as I am ?

When I said there is a
Link to criminality and travellers my thread go pulled - 3 time's. So I disagree.

And that was what the dispatches documentary was about .

Yes.

You asked why it can’t be discussed. People said because they’re usually racist.

MNHQ explained that topics can be discussed but racism wouldn’t be tolerated.

You made some wild, typo-ridden claims about being “in law” and on the frontline, but not really on the frontline.

Then you said you were gone, but you’re not.

Now you keep making throwaway comments with shrug emojis saying “I’m sorry but I can only go by my experience” as though why one is giving you a hard time about your experience.

Then you said it can’t be discussed which is not true because your thread is still here.

Then you said it should be discussed but you haven’t said what specifically, and you haven’t said why.

That’s the thread I’ve read...

Sorry typos make that difficult to understand.

"Why one is giving you a hard time "

I don't understand what this means

One typo. But that’s mature, in keeping with the rest of your posts so far.

Anyone is what it should have said, but then you already knew that...

And yes I'm out now. I need to go to bed .

Yes, you do. 🙄

The crime data presented in said documentary was extremely poor. They considered reported crime within 1 or 2 miles of the traveller site. They did not state what type of crime this was, or indeed if it was travellers committing this reported crime. Only briefly did they mention that other aspects such as poverty and deprivation of that area could increase the overall crime rate.

You're quoting information completely out of context. So what if X% of travellers have no formal qualifications? That means bugger all. If I did a straw poll of all of my friends, maybe a similar % also have no formal qualifications. But they all work, all own their own homes, all live relatively happy lives. I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to make here.

Hang on....my typos have been used to suggest I'm of low intelligence, English not my first language, so is ok for others now and not me ? I'm checking and double checking my posts. And I do need to get to bed . There is demonstrably a set of double standards here .

No, I actually thought that the sheer volume of typos coupled with the barely coherent, pointless rambling was proof that you we’re pissed when you posted the OP!

I wasn’t having a go about them (which would be almost as wanky as posting a thinly-veiled racist thread) just thought they were proof of drunkenness!

So cheap it doesn't warrant a reply.

Jesus Christ, what a pile on. I don't think the OP deserves it, I've worked out what her job probably is and it's not that unbelievable.

If its a discussion around a dispatches programme , I cant see the problem.
I think its a widely accepted that the child abuse scandal in Rochdale went unchallenged for such a long time because of political correctness.
I didnt see dispatches this week but their programmes are researched by professional journalists and are well respected.
I'm pretty sure channel 4 wouldn't have aired it if it had any concerns.
So i am shocked its content can't be discussed here.
Mumsnet can and do delete individual comments if they are offensive so unless the heading / question was itself offensive the thread should not have been deleted.

Thank you
heisaverybadboy

It's difficult sometimes not feel personally attacked - I'm honestly a good , decent and honest person who strives to do my best for people professionally. I'm not of low iq, I'm not racist, English is my first language, I never claimed to be a lawyer although I've thought about making that leap , seems my iq wouldn't cut it according to mn! But I was trying to discuss a problem that might be uncomfortable but exists.