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Qui tacet consentire videture... I want it to be understood by MNHQ and by guests to this site that my silence on the subject of the recent speculative threads does NOT condone their existence.

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Aitch · 09/09/2007 11:47

Aitch.

OP posts:
doggiesayswoof · 10/09/2007 16:42

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Agree with Aitch and MB's excellent posts.

AbRoller · 10/09/2007 16:56

Thanks VVV, I've signed

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PrincessGoodLife
roisin
L izzylou
potoroo
Bibis
twofalls
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dejags
sandcastles
callmeovercautious
silverfrog
l ulumama
Tutter
Mars
EscapeFrom
RustyBear
tigerschick
Peshatlast
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Mommalove
StarryStar ryNight
OberonKenobi
FlameBatfink
tortoiseSHELL
irishbird
Bink
artichokes
Chirpygirl
lilibet
BecauseImWorthIt
Boco
grouchyoscar
EffiePerine
elesbells
BoingBoing
onlyjoking
slim22
Mari na
littlelapin
SpookyMadMummy
fleacircus
ahundredtimes
JackieNo
mumofmonsters
Firepile
Black duck
Dottydot
Lilymaid
sazzybee
startouchedtrinity
TheMoistWorldOfSeptimusQuench
2Happy
chala t
Issy
Desiderata
TnOg
TnOgu
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RubySlippers
soapbox
lissielou
Budababe
M amaPyjama
wheresthehamster
auntyquated
gess
mellowma
lucyellensmum
hippipotami
TheArmadillo
ProfYaffle
MrsBadger
pampam
FrannyandZooey
tissy
Littlefish
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2shoes
cerys
MrsSp oon
coppertop
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berolina
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Manictigger · 10/09/2007 16:57

Well done Aitch, can I sign up as well please? (in fact I wouldn't confine it just to MM threads) My worry (apart from the one that the general public will start thinking that all MNetters are insensitive tossers) is that old/new regular/occasional posters who have given a lot of good advice and help to many of us in the past will just decide that MN has changed so much for the worse that they just can't be bothered with it any more. And that would, I think, really be to the detriment of MN.

It's a shame that THIS thread will never be quoted from in the press. Perhaps you should have posted it in 'in the news' (since as we've all observed, speculation and comment seem to qualify for that on MN) where lazy journos are more likely to lurk.

VeniVidiVickiQV · 10/09/2007 17:02

It's already started to happen, manic

JustineMumsnet · 10/09/2007 17:39

Hi again,
Propose to send this letter to the Guardian (plse shout if you think it could be improved):

Dear Editor,
In the story ?Sympathy for beleaguered parents muted by jeers and suspicion? in Saturday?s Guardian, you included two quotes from the Mumsnet discussion boards in a paragraph that begun ?But on other sites popular sympathy appeared to slipping away from the McCann family.?:

?On Mumsnet yesterday a furious debate erupted between those hidden behind online pseudonyms. "I do think the McCanns have acted somewhat oddly throughout this investigation - particularly the mother," commented Krazykoolkazza.? "I can't quite see it as natural for a mother in her position to make one of her immediate priorities in the days immediately following the disappearance of her daughter a visit to the Pope - without her remaining children."

This is not a fair representation either of how the Mumsnet community feels about the McCann case or the debate that has taken place on the site. In fact the majority of the membership has opted out of discussion about Madeleine McCann and her family, believing the extraordinary amount of speculation and media interest to be pointless, distasteful and ghoulish.

Many hundreds have signed up to a boycott that has been in existence since May. The initiator of the boycott, Blu, sums up how Mumsnetters feel:

?I have the utmost sympathy for the McCann family, and hope for a happy ending to their trouble. Meanwhile I am not happy about many aspects of the many [discussion] threads, and hearby resolve to completely boycott them by not clicking, not reading, nor responding (however horrible the views), and thus not adding to the circular and predictable route they take, no matter what quality of intervention is made. Clasp your right hand over your left Nork and repeat the boycott pledge after me!?

Justine Roberts and Carrie Longton
Co-founders
www.mumsnet.com

Kewcumber · 10/09/2007 17:40

Aitch.
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Bree
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Anna8888
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NadineBaggott
Si mplySparkling
niceglasses
NotAnOtter
ElenyaTuesday
francagoestohollywood
jura
tigermoth
berol ina
martianbishop
motherinferior
CatIsSleepy
LaDiDaDi
Doodledootoo
PrincessGoodLife
roisin
L izzylou
potoroo
Bibis
twofalls
turquoise
dejags
sandcastles
callmeovercautious
silverfrog
l ulumama
Tutter
Mars
EscapeFrom
RustyBear
tigerschick
Peshatlast
McEdam
Mommalove
StarryStar ryNight
OberonKenobi
FlameBatfink
tortoiseSHELL
irishbird
Bink
artichokes
Chirpygirl
lilibet
BecauseImWorthIt
Boco
grouchyoscar
EffiePerine
elesbells
BoingBoing
onlyjoking
slim22
Mari na
littlelapin
SpookyMadMummy
fleacircus
ahundredtimes
JackieNo
mumofmonsters
Firepile
Black duck
Dottydot
Lilymaid
sazzybee
startouchedtrinity
TheMoistWorldOfSeptimusQuench
2Happy
chala t
Issy
Desiderata
TnOg
TnOgu
IntergalacticWalrus
RubySlippers
soapbox
lissielou
Budababe
M amaPyjama
wheresthehamster
auntyquated
gess
mellowma
lucyellensmum
hippipotami
TheArmadillo
ProfYaffle
MrsBadger
pampam
FrannyandZooey
tissy
Littlefish
Greensleeves
2shoes
cerys
MrsSp oon
coppertop
EllieG
KristinaM
Blu
berolina
SauerKraut
Spawn
SpawnChorus
ArcticRoll
southe astastra
Pollyanna
Jas
Carmenere
merryberry
Pruners
Califrau
singersgirl
Slubberdegullion
R osaLuxembourg
random
rantinghousewife
elliek
ImBarryScott
lionheart
funnypeculiar
donnie
FMV
Pickie
OldieMum
Isababel
crumpet
hat
hatwoman
idleblogger
Hassled
gibberish
Lio
DarrellR ivers
Beenleigh
Beetroot
welliemum
snowbirdonice
norkmaiden
hester
DaisyMOO
nell12
oops
ma rthamoo
FromGirders
NorksDrift
BabiesEverywhere
stepfordwife
suedonim
NappiesGalore
kindersur prise
CorrieDale
ruty
Awen
Dinosaur
LilRedWG
TigerFeet
fluffyanimal
pagwatch
Polgara2
Porp oise
NormaStanleyFletcher
Wisteria
quint
Skyler
Piffle
ju
kewcumber

Whizzz · 10/09/2007 17:41

Whizzz - I have avoided the threads too & i think the letter sums it all up

littlelapin · 10/09/2007 17:42

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 10/09/2007 17:44

Fab, and though I like the nork bit LL may be right

NKF · 10/09/2007 17:44

You're worried that MN might look silly from the quotes and you're proposing to include something about norks!

Bink · 10/09/2007 17:44

Were both the comments which were quoted misrepresentative in the same way? (I missed Guardian article.) To say there were two and then only discuss one leaves a gap.

This is just me, but I think the original boycott/nork thing reads as very flip in that letter - if it is published, it will I think give yet another wrong impression. Things have moved on and I think it would be better to take a sober extract from this thread.

(And, um, typo - "begun" should be "began".)

AbRoller · 10/09/2007 17:44

Yes agree with LL, leave out that bit.

Kewcumber · 10/09/2007 17:44

agree with LL the seriousness of norks not being understood...

Bink · 10/09/2007 17:45

cross-post with some others there!

Jacanne · 10/09/2007 17:45

Aitch.
MrsJohnCusack
Boris
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Bree
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Anna8888
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NadineBaggott
Si mplySparkling
niceglasses
NotAnOtter
ElenyaTuesday
francagoestohollywood
jura
tigermoth
berol ina
martianbishop
motherinferior
CatIsSleepy
LaDiDaDi
Doodledootoo
PrincessGoodLife
roisin
L izzylou
potoroo
Bibis
twofalls
turquoise
dejags
sandcastles
callmeovercautious
silverfrog
l ulumama
Tutter
Mars
EscapeFrom
RustyBear
tigerschick
Peshatlast
McEdam
Mommalove
StarryStar ryNight
OberonKenobi
FlameBatfink
tortoiseSHELL
irishbird
Bink
artichokes
Chirpygirl
lilibet
BecauseImWorthIt
Boco
grouchyoscar
EffiePerine
elesbells
BoingBoing
onlyjoking
slim22
Mari na
littlelapin
SpookyMadMummy
fleacircus
ahundredtimes
JackieNo
mumofmonsters
Firepile
Black duck
Dottydot
Lilymaid
sazzybee
startouchedtrinity
TheMoistWorldOfSeptimusQuench
2Happy
chala t
Issy
Desiderata
TnOg
TnOgu
IntergalacticWalrus
RubySlippers
soapbox
lissielou
Budababe
M amaPyjama
wheresthehamster
auntyquated
gess
mellowma
lucyellensmum
hippipotami
TheArmadillo
ProfYaffle
MrsBadger
pampam
FrannyandZooey
tissy
Littlefish
Greensleeves
2shoes
cerys
MrsSp oon
coppertop
EllieG
KristinaM
Blu
berolina
SauerKraut
Spawn
SpawnChorus
ArcticRoll
southe astastra
Pollyanna
Jas
Carmenere
merryberry
Pruners
Califrau
singersgirl
Slubberdegullion
R osaLuxembourg
random
rantinghousewife
elliek
ImBarryScott
lionheart
funnypeculiar
donnie
FMV
Pickie
OldieMum
Isababel
crumpet
hat
hatwoman
idleblogger
Hassled
gibberish
Lio
DarrellR ivers
Beenleigh
Beetroot
welliemum
snowbirdonice
norkmaiden
hester
DaisyMOO
nell12
oops
ma rthamoo
FromGirders
NorksDrift
BabiesEverywhere
stepfordwife
suedonim
NappiesGalore
kindersur prise
CorrieDale
ruty
Awen
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fluffyanimal
pagwatch
Polgara2
Porp oise
NormaStanleyFletcher
Wisteria
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ju
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Jacanne

Blu · 10/09/2007 17:47

Snort - they will wonder what on earth a nork is!!

I think you need to differntiate between the amount of media coverage designed to find her - and that which speculates and provokes conspiracy theories - otherwise it makes MN look unsympathetic to all media coverage - and remembering the unfair backlash against the 'shrek' concern.

What about changing "believing the extraordinary amount of speculation and media interest to be pointless, distasteful and ghoulish. " to "believing much of the media speculation and the comment it provokes to be pointless, distasteful and ghoulish." i.e make the focus more on specualtion than amount of coverage.

burstingbug · 10/09/2007 17:48

Signed BB

ruty · 10/09/2007 17:48

i like the nork bit. It is representative of MN. And the intelligence of the rest, of both the quote and the letter, stands for itself.

AbRoller · 10/09/2007 17:49

on second thoughts maybe don't use the pledge. Not because it is not right but because they will hunt down the original and query why the nork bit was left out making MN look like they're struggling to find sincere support threads (we all know the pledge is sincere but like LL said, not everyone might see it that way)

littlelapin · 10/09/2007 17:52

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TwitmonstEr · 10/09/2007 17:55

agree about the nork bit. are there two lists, as I can't see my name on the more recent one, and I want to show my support.[sorry]

AbRoller · 10/09/2007 17:56

Yes I think that's better LL and the wording is good.

littlelapin · 10/09/2007 18:00

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McEdam · 10/09/2007 18:07

Just seen letter which I think is fine (prob. best that nork reference has been taken out, though).

VeniVidiVickiQV · 10/09/2007 18:11

phew - thanks for that LL

I think the "clasp your norks" quote can be used, if also used additionally with:

"In addition, this thread was started in response to the limited viewpoint that your article projected..."Qui tacet consentire videture... I want it to be understood by MNHQ and by guests to this site that my silence on the subject of the recent speculative threads does NOT condone their existence." "

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