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A different view to "I am Spartacus"

281 replies

aleanasjourney · 01/09/2016 02:01

Hello everyone,

I have had the time to read a lot of your comments about Transgender people not being biologically the gender they wish to be. It is a very sad day when parents are not able to share the hopes and dreams of other parents. It is a sad day when other parents cannot understand the pain and anguish of other parents when their child is in so much pain that they want to die.
Now I know what you are about to say, if they get help then they would not have a problem and they would be fixed. In the DSM 3,4, and 5 Gender Dysphoria is a real problem. It is not something made up to lead people to the Devil or anything else that crazy. By the way if you go to a Physiologist or a social worker they use the DSM as a guide book for issues of the mind. Though this year it is being discussed to remove the issues of Gender Dysphoria. Now if you try to discount the issues of Gender Dysphoria then the little happy pills some of you are taking must stop as well.
Let me try to give you a little light... I respect your views as it is your right to have them. But giving you the right to have your views then you must accept the right given to others to have the view that they are not what their body says they are.
When it comes to children who are feeling the way that they are, would you not do ANYTHING to keep your child alive? Hormone blockers do not cause boobs to grow. They do exactly what they say they are going to do. It puts off Puberty, it does not stop it. They are used to see if the child is going through a phase. Now to the issues of physical sex (penis and vagina) those of you saying that they are the only two genders need to understand that you have been proven incorrect by 99% of the medical community. There is a physical sex called Intersexed for those of you who don't know that is what used to be called a Hermaphrodite. Now this does not mean that they were born with born sets of equipment. What it means is simply that some of the traits of both sexes are included. Meaning that you could have a child born with a penis and a set of ovaries. Now saying it is a "normal" condition, in the past surgery was chosen for children born with this condition. The suicide rate was very high for this group cause a lot of the time the doctors got it wrong. So if you look at a seesaw penis on one side and vagina on the other intersexed sits in the middle. Their is a sliding scale in the three, this is being proven with the markers now are wider than the simple XX and XY. Though the majority are XX and XY. It is possible that some of the mental traits are linked in a different fashion than what was thought. If you accept that being Gay or Lesbian is not a mental illness then you have to look at the Transgender issue as not an illness as well but as a mental trait similar to being Gay or Lesbian.
Furthermore we must also look at what the Transcommunity are saying compared to what is being said by the media and the politicians. The Transcommunity does not say they are the other gender, they are saying that is how they feel they are. This is something that is hard to understand and digest. So let me try to help your thoughts. In the morning you wake up you don't see your body. You feel your environment around you. Go to the bathroom, eat breakfast, brush your teeth and then you are at the point where you have to get dressed you look at your clothes and you feel like wearing Red. Okay now lets look at a Transperson they wake up they feel their environment around them. Go to the bathroom, but don't look in the mirror, they eat breakfast, they brush their teeth, they try to avoid the mirror. They get dressed they go about their day hoping to make it one more day. Then it happens, it snaps they can't keep doing this. This is not life, this is existence nothing more. Something has to be done, not that they want it done. They would love to be the "Norm" but they can't it is more than a feeling of RED. It is something wrong deep in their soul. They do not feel connected to the skin they are in. So what do they do, some give up, some crawl into a hole, some end it all, some fight it until it kills them, some say I have to Transition. They worry about the cost of the choice but what is the other choices if they don't. They want to live just like the "Norm". So they feel closer to the XX or the XY. So they try to live like that to make it. Now to debunk some of the crazy ideas that the media and politicians pounding into your head that is incorrect.
*Men can Breast feed, the glands are there and all they have to do is be activated.
*Transpeople do not cause problems in the bathrooms. Here is why Hormone blockers for Transwomen shut off Testosterone . That is male hormone that cause the erections, sex drive and some thought patterns associated with some forms of perversions . IF that Hormone is not working then those are no longer issues. Because news flash without the hormone erections well 90% are gone. Sex Drive is changed to an emotional connection vs physical connection.
*When it comes to parenting most Transwomen become more in tune with their children.
*No they don't perverse their children in to any form of gender role in fact they hope that their children do not have the same issues.
*When it comes to pronouns what is wrong with a little respect? They are not punishing you for being the "Norm". Call you out for dressing like a slob, bogan, white trash, or any thing else. In fact Transpeople for the most part are more inclusive of your feelings cause what they go through.

You might wonder where my in site comes from. I live it.... My story would shock and scare some of you, if I was your child. I would welcome you to read it aleanasjourney.com/about/ . In fact if you questions ask me, don't assume cause I assure you the truth will help you understand me. I wish you the best day no matter who you are or who you want to be.
~Ally

OP posts:
Snowshimmer · 02/09/2016 08:31

I especially liked the photos of the shocked wide-eyed women in the blog.
Ignorant mansplaining from someone who fucked 3 different women and fathered 7 children to brag about, who calls rape drunken stupidity, who claims that gender is between the legs. I truly feel like Alice in Wonderland.

The women on the Spartacus thread are vile phobic assholes just like feminists are all bitchy manhaters, right? It’s the same type attitude. Not engaging with our actual concerns.

EmpressKnowsWhereHerTowelIs · 02/09/2016 08:32

That Sage test is utterly ridiculous.

Unless it's aimed at people who want to conform to gender stereotypes and fantasise about being French maids.

It screams autogynephilia, really.

Snowshimmer · 02/09/2016 08:33

Oh dear, Tearing. Sad

AltheaThoon · 02/09/2016 08:38

Why did the article need a trigger warning?

I'm getting so fed up with being called transphobic and hateful simply for standing up for women's rights.

TearingDownTheWall · 02/09/2016 08:50

Snow, that was 2. I read over 100 other concerning statements/claims in the "about me" section alone. It's littered with them. But apparently Aleana is a woman, exactly like me and to suggest otherwise could get me banned from MN.

Soubriquet · 02/09/2016 08:53

OP
Did you defend the person who sexually assaulted your 8 year old daughter? Did you ask them if they were struggling with their gender identity and that's why they did it?

I doubt it. So don't downplay rape. Rape is a horrific crime. It literally takes away a woman's right to feel safe in her own body. It is not the work of two drunk adults.
It is the work of a man thinking he has the right to that woman's body. Just like they did with your daughter. Get angry about it. Don't defend it

BeyondASpecialSnowflake · 02/09/2016 09:53

"Nope, I'm not even gonna read the Spartacus thread. I'm a ( genetic 🙄) male and they are female, so it's obvious that they don't know what they're talking about and I know best. Bunch of transphobic bjullying bjitches"

HemlockIsSpartacus · 02/09/2016 09:58

"bjullying bjitches"

I haven't heard that in ages! I've missed this place Grin

BeyondASpecialSnowflake · 02/09/2016 10:06
Grin
CoteDAzur · 02/09/2016 10:17

"when the marriage failed I would look at myself and say I can’t even do that right"

So, after a long heterosexual life where you fathered 7 children the old-fashioned way, the solution to being a failure in everything is to put on a dress & makeup and become are a special snowflake that people want to interview.

disfasia · 02/09/2016 10:30

*Transpeople do not cause problems in the bathrooms. Here is why Hormone blockers for Transwomen shut off Testosterone . That is male hormone that cause the erections, sex drive and some thought patterns associated with some forms of perversions . IF that Hormone is not working then those are no longer issues. Because news flash without the hormone erections well 90% are gone. Sex Drive is changed to an emotional connection vs physical connection.

This is totally untrue. Loads of transwomen have erections. Don't forget many of us know transwomen. No problems in the restrooms?

transwidow.wordpress.com/2016/03/25/are-transwomen-a-threat-in-womens-spaces/

barbwire.com/2015/04/18/0900-feminists-advocate-allisons-law-to-protect-public-from-transgender-sex-offenders/

thepoliticsofgender.wordpress.com/2015/11/19/trans-male-violence/

m.youtube.com/watch?v=uzwMJAFWLtQ

www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transgender-killer-bit-prison-officer-1-3565393

www.irvinetimes.com/news/13744480._High_risk__sex_offender_locked_up/

appropriately-inappropriate.tumblr.com/post/143065193655/the-tip-of-the-iceberg-please-add-to-this-list

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2525441/Transgender-murderer-Paris-Green-moved-womens-prison-sex-inmates.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

m.nydailynews.com/archives/news/2-kings-life-rape-slay-girl-13-article-1.737954

kittyit.tumblr.com/post/139457140172/40-trans-women-who-committed-violent-crimes

outofmypantiesnow.wordpress.com/2013/10/28/when-is-90-not-substantially-all/

makeslogicalsensetome2 · 02/09/2016 15:19

As an ex to a partner that transitioned its not that exciting. Actually its demoralising . The realities are worlds apart because the transitioning partner becomes so absorbed it the whole process and hasn't much room left for anyone not onboard. Either you are with them or against the whole thing if you forget to use their preferred pronouns. Its sad when children are involved.

Tasmania is hosting Australia's first national camp for transgender people. Its not that remote and there are quite a few Trans there.

FreshwaterSelkie Fri 02-Sep-16 07:28:55
Good catch, halofell!

I'd love to hear the three ex-wives side of the story. Wouldn't that be interesting?

WomanActually · 02/09/2016 16:10

The way you talk about Rape being "two drunk idiots" and "what do you expect when drunk/drugs are involved" and your comments about it being the ugly side of the equal rights we wanted are the exact same things said to women, I have never ever seen men asked "what do you expect when drink is involved?" if transmen are men and gain all the male privilege on transitioning then what equal rights are you referring to? men are not fighting for equal rights.

Or is it because the person doing the raping has a penis, and the person being raped has a vagina, you're viewing it in on some level as a male raping a female, a man raping a woman, and applying all the shitty things society aims at women re rape and assault onto a transman?

It's just your comments make sense when applied to women, but sound weird when applied to a man, and if somewhere inside you view transmen as women, then surely that's as transphobic as women saying someone with a penis is male? If CB had raped someone with a penis, rather than a vagina, would you still say it's two drunk idiots? Or minimise it with a "what do you expect?" I honestly have never even seen those comments aimed at men.

WankingMonkey · 02/09/2016 16:43

I have done the SAGE test you linked. My results are

Anyway, I finished it as I have nowt to do today and

Your Raw Score is: -950, which indicates that overall you are Masculine

Your appearance is Masculine

Your brain processes are mostly that of a Masculine Male person.

You appear to socialize in a very masculine manner.

You believe you have no real conflicts about your gender identity.

You indicated your were born Female.

ANALYSIS:
If your physical sex is Female your analysis confuses S.A.G.E., as you appear to have attributes of the Male gender, but have not apparently done anything to alter your physical appearance. Leading this program to wonder if you are actually Intersexed? If you are not, your hesitation to begin transition indicates you have doubts about your ability to successfully do so, even though you seem to be a serious candidate for Gender Reassignment Surgery.

I am not interesexed. I am just a woman who doesn't give a crap about gender stereotypes and as such ignores them totally. Its good to see I am pegged as a transsexual though, I don't think my husband would be too amused if I rocked up one day with a penis and told him he was transphobic for not sucking it though tbh. I think I will stay as I am, quite happy with being a woman. I think I broke the test.

EmpressKnowsWhereHerTowelIs · 02/09/2016 17:55

If someone said in that test they were turned on by doing housework & dressing up I'd take that to mean they were almost definitely a bloke. I wonder if SAGE would?

BeyondASpecialSnowflake · 02/09/2016 19:10

Anybody be arsed to do the whole thing with predicatable agp responses...?

WombOfOnesOwn · 03/09/2016 01:06

That SAGE test is so clearly written by a man -- it thinks women don't remove hair from their faces, HA!

BeyondASpecialSnowflake · 03/09/2016 04:04

Apart from many women with facial hair anyway, which its stupid enough to forget... Umm...eyebrows?

AltheaThoon · 03/09/2016 07:05

I couldn't finish that SAGE test, the questions and responses were awful! Who made that shit up?

StrangeLookingParasite · 03/09/2016 14:59

Massive mansplaining/'But enough about me, what do you think of me'.

Your life experience seems very, very narrow. You really think everyone believes in god? How bizarre.

And what poor Tasmania did to deserve this, I have no idea.

StrangeLookingParasite · 03/09/2016 15:04

Oh, not to mention all the observed changes when they started taking female hormones, which rather flies in the face of the concept of 'girl brain' (which makes me fucking grind my teeth anyway - there's no such thing). IF there were such a thing, there would be no changes when female hormones were taken. Ugh, ugh, ugh. I need to go and do something else now. This level of stupidity has irritated me too much.

PortiaCastis · 03/09/2016 15:22

Oh I'm just going to say what I think
What a lot of codswalloping bollocks.
SAGE goes up a turkey at Christmas

EmpressKnowsWhereHerTowelIs · 03/09/2016 15:51

Portia Wine

makeslogicalsensetome2 · 03/09/2016 21:10

OP This is worth the read for an alternate view.

'I didn't know I didn't have to be trans to be dysphoric'.

Results of the survey of over two hundred female detransitioners completed.

gendertrender.wordpress.com/2016/09/03/wow-first-ever-survey-of-two-hundred-female-detransitioners/#comment-73476

Female detransition and re identification: Survey results and interpretation
direct link-
guideonragingstars.tumblr.com/post/149877706175/female-detransition-and-reidentification-survey

pontificationcentral · 03/09/2016 21:40

That survey is very sad reading. So many people trying to escape who they are, because society's rules wouldn't allow for their individuality, and so many women that have been hurt. If you won't fit in that socially defined box, get in the other one. No possibility that the boxes themselves might just be too cramped for actual human individuality. We'll just chop bits off until we make you fit.