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TDWP and recent goings-on

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RowanMumsnet · 30/01/2014 13:55

Hello

We thought it would be useful to explain our understanding of what occurred last week between Zombie, Footsteps/TDWP, Rhubarb etc to try to clear up any misunderstandings.

When the situation started to develop last week, we absolutely did not know that Footsteps was TDWP. We unearthed something to suggest that she was near midnight on the night that everything was kicking off. At that point, one MNer was waiting in a public place to meet up with her, and we had been told by Zombie and by Nom that the police were aware of the rendezvous details and were standing by to help if anything went wrong.

We could see from some PMs flying around that posters were saying that the crime reference number checked out, and that the refuge had confirmed they had a space for her, so at this point we thought the best course was to keep channels of communication open. So we didn't ban Footsteps again at that point, despite having realised who she was. We did re-ban her once things had settled down and we had been told she was in a safe place. Given past history, TDWP is not a poster we would consider allowing back to Mumsnet permanently.

At various points throughout the evening we were in phone or text contact with Zombie and with Rhubarb, mostly trying to establish (as far as we could) what was going on and whether people were behaving safely. FWIW, we thought at the time - and still do - that it was a hugely risky thing to do, and not something we would advise or encourage. We would never recommend that any MNer goes into a situation like this, particularly not on her own. As most of you will know, we remind posters regularly that not everyone on the internet is who and what they say they are. We're pulling together some content on internet safety for adults and hope to publish that soon.

We asked Rhubarb at the time (before we had conclusive evidence about Footsteps's identity) whether she thought the person Zombie was meeting was a previously banned poster, and she said that she had no reason to think it was.

Pretty much everything else took place off-board and via channels that we have no access to - so beyond this account we aren't able to say with certainty what has gone on.

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Maryz · 30/01/2014 21:03

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IamInvisible · 30/01/2014 21:04

I agree with Maryz and Beer.

I was really worried about you Zombies. The cryptic messages were making it worse. It was a right fucking mess on MN. Please, please don't do it again. Leave it to the professionals.

Maryz · 30/01/2014 21:04

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Maryz · 30/01/2014 21:07

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IamInvisible · 30/01/2014 21:08

I think the same as you about the Uncle maryz.

DrNick · 30/01/2014 21:14

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Tweasels · 30/01/2014 21:15

Well this is not an entirely unexpected turn of events.

None of this should EVER happen again.

LadyintheRadiator · 30/01/2014 21:16

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BertieBottsJustGotMarried · 30/01/2014 21:21

Joules68 if you're worried about a thread or unsure just report it. MN can either keep an eye or take action straight away, but they're better off aware than not IYSWIM.

DavidHarewoodsFloozy · 30/01/2014 21:27

Mnhq need to re-instate the original thread.

Along withMaryZ, I can,t believe the twists and spin.I lurked from the beginning and posted when "I think i,ll send my Uncle to meet Zombie" bollox happened.

It was fucking dangerous, and for women in dv situations total misinformation.

Foots/dwp a total vampire.

DrNick · 30/01/2014 21:28

And was TLES definitely a different person to TDWP

MooncupGoddess · 30/01/2014 21:33

I'm pretty sure they were different, DrNick - TLES was a compulsive oversharer who lived very close to where I was living at the time so I tended to note her posts, and the style was different from TDWP.

Joules68 · 30/01/2014 21:33

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UsedToBeNDP · 30/01/2014 21:34

I cannot even believe that MNHQ were involved in this ludicrous romp, regardless of who the OP was.

I'm not sure how much responsibility they have wrt to the actions of users in RL. I'm tempted to say, absolutely bugger all, beyond the bog std reminding of grown adults of "stranger danger" (fgs). We are all sentient beings, surely we don't need to be told this stuff? It's basic stuff we teach our tiny children and yet there are posters who merrily chuck it out of the window for the heroism & glory of rescuing a damsel in distress live on MN.

Serious grips need to be got.

Mintyy · 30/01/2014 21:40

TLES was a very different poster who was rather transparent (lots of photos and everything) also local to me.

ArtexMonkey · 30/01/2014 22:01

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BOFtastic · 30/01/2014 22:03

Yes. Hard to believe, I know, but there is more than one drama llama on mumsnet.

DrNick · 30/01/2014 22:05

Agree the phone conversation is not clear

CatAmongThePigeons · 30/01/2014 22:16

The 'uncle' drove TDWP to the RVP? That would have made me angry had I been there.

BertieBottsJustGotMarried · 30/01/2014 22:20

I too was quite surprised to hear about the phone contact, I had not realised MNHQ would do that. It's reassuring in a way but I think it's right to look at how this whole situation could be avoided in future.

Joules68 · 30/01/2014 22:27

So zombie did you have a conversation with TDWP about her MN trolling/bans etc? What's her excuses?

Joules68 · 30/01/2014 22:30

I'm also surprised at MNHQ getting so involved and rebeccaMNHQ texting a poster.... You do realise this will be expected now on every drama thread where posters get involved personally, don't you!?!

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 30/01/2014 22:36

Given that TLES has a rather unusual first name, is it fair to post it openly on a thread? Unless she has revealed her name on here, of course.

magimedi · 30/01/2014 22:38

Bottom line is,it's online,cannot corroborate anything/anyone.be safe.trust nae fucker
Zombie was reckless charging around undertaking interventions.risky and reckless
No one here should enact an intervention,leave it to the real life professionals/services

The only person on this whole thread who has spoken 100% sense.

That post should be the end of all this rubbish.

Flowers (which I suspect you won't like) scottishmummy but you speak sense.

Mintyy · 30/01/2014 22:38

No, it is not. Was going to say the same thing.

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