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I can't stand living with DSS

71 replies

LoveMyHorse · 17/08/2026 23:00

DSS25 just graduated and is staying with us for the next few months before moving in with his girlfriend. He's been here about 6 weeks and it feels like 6 years. He's messy, noisy, virtually nocturnal, leaves his stuff lying around everywhere, and generally seems to think I'm his maid. He never goes out: gym 2 or 3 times a week. The rest of the time spent in his Playstation. Wats family dinners, but then cooks expensive stuff like steak which he buys just for himself, usually at 2am. DH and I asked him nicely to be tidier, and he got really defensive. I'm chronically ill and disabled as well as caring for DD13 who is autistic, not in school, and very anxious. DH works full time. Other kids are students and/or working.

If somebody else had written this asking for my advice, then I'd say he needs to get a job, to pay some rent, and to muck in a bit more with day to day life in a big family instead of behaving like he lives in a serviced apartment. But here's the stumbling block: he scares me. He got arrested twice 3 years ago for assaulting his girlfriend. She's taken him back, which is her decision, and he hasn't been arrested again since then. I'm not aware of any other violence from him towards her, but he did have a drunken fight with a friend about a month ago. I was in an abusive relationship myself aged 17-20 and DSS's assault was the same: strangulation. I believe that men like that don't change. It's never an isolated incident: it comes from a deep contempt for women. I've tolerated him for shorter periods like Christmas and uni holidays for DH's sake, but I hadn't anticipated struggling with old feelings and emotions so much. Maybe it's because he never goes out so he's in my space constantly with little respite. I am fucking FURIOUS that stuff I've dealt with in counselling a long time ago has been dragged back out and is hurting me again. My home doesn't feel like my safe space any more. Every time I clean all his mess off the hob or clean up his shavings from the bathroom sink, I can only see it through the lens of his inherent contempt for women and his utter entitlement, and it's making me disproportionately angry about the small stuff. Like "oh my god, there are pubes all over the toilet seat again and YOU STRANGLED YOUR GIRLFRIEND YOU PIECE OF SHIT HOW DARE YOU BARGE INTO MY HOME". Obviously this is not a healthy way to live, and I'm so stressed I can't think straight. How do I cope til January? Or do I tell DH that I can't? We said he could stay here for 6 months, and if I say he has to go then I don't see how DSS & DH's relationship could recover. Nor mine and DH's.

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roxyro · 17/08/2026 23:05

Wow! You have my sympathy; I almost feel stressed for you. Sorry I have no useful advice for you. I’m quite precious about my private space and this would drive me mad. Where’s his mum in this?

RedToothBrush · 17/08/2026 23:07

Check into a hotel.

This might send the message to your DH.

AnneLovesGilbert · 17/08/2026 23:08

He got arrested twice 3 years ago for assaulting his girlfriend

I see she took him back but what happened after he got arrested? Why did your husband ever agree to put him up in these circumstances? Why did you?

It sounds absolutely untenable. Is your DD safe with him in the house?

LoveMyHorse · 17/08/2026 23:08

She lives 50 miles away. He sees her sometimes but her husband has said he can't live with him. I used to think he was a twat for that, but I'm feeling more sympathetic now!!

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LoveMyHorse · 17/08/2026 23:11

They dropped all charges after he was arrested. I don't know why. I don't feel he's an actual threat to any of us and DD rather likes him. He's very personable most of the time - they always are, aren't they?

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Heretohelp1111 · 17/08/2026 23:31

I think you need to confide in your partner and see what solutions he offers. If he is a loving partner who understands your history he will try and work with you so you can feel a little more safe at home again, even if that’s just him doing the challenging and setting some more boundaries to start with.

Kingdomofsleep · 17/08/2026 23:44

If your dh won't make him (firmly rather than nicely) clean up after himself, then dh should do it.
"Dh, there are pubes on the seat, what are you going to do about it?"
This man isn't your responsibility

Crazycockerpoo · 17/08/2026 23:51

Personally no one is worth destroying your own peace and mental health for.

I would be having a conversation with DH. Be totally honest. Tell him his Ds behaviour is triggering to you and see what he says. If he doesn't understand then maybe he needs to leave with DS and they can find somewhere to live together because you don't deserve to feel like this in your own home.

What happens in January? He might go but what about if he doesnt?? And even if he does, what state is your mental health going to be in?? You need to prioritize you!

LoveMyHorse · 17/08/2026 23:54

DH does challenge, and the messiness has improved a bit. But DSS clearly feels very hard done by, and it's all very grudging. DH prefers to cajole and encourage rather than issuing bollockings - he says DSS has low self confidence and fragile self esteem and needs to feel good about himself. So when he asked him earlier about finding work and DSS said he's applied for a few jobs that's apparently great. And DSS plans to try harder to find work in two weeks time. Because it'll be September then and apparently trying a bit harder isn't possible until then. For some unknown reason. But DH thinks it's great that he's looking for work. I was looking for work before I fucking graduated, what with my degree coming to an end not being a complete fucking surprise 🙄

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LoveMyHorse · 18/08/2026 00:01

I've told DH that DSS puts me on edge because of my experience and DSS' arrests, but I don't think he really gets it. I was in my 40s when we met, so 20 years had passed since escaping my abuser. I had counselling in my 20s: it helped a lot and since then I've not felt the need to talk about it much. So he doesn't know about how traumatised I was, how I moved away from my home town, how I suppressed my feelings for years and kidded myself that I was fine when actually there was a howling wilderness in my head and I killed the pain in any way I could. Maybe I should tell him all about how I feared for my life and the fallout afterwards. But that would involve me having to drag it all up again, when I was perfectly fine just not thinking about it.

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Besidemyselfwithworry · 18/08/2026 00:04

LoveMyHorse · 17/08/2026 23:08

She lives 50 miles away. He sees her sometimes but her husband has said he can't live with him. I used to think he was a twat for that, but I'm feeling more sympathetic now!!

His girlfriend also has a husband?

Besidemyselfwithworry · 18/08/2026 00:05

LoveMyHorse · 18/08/2026 00:01

I've told DH that DSS puts me on edge because of my experience and DSS' arrests, but I don't think he really gets it. I was in my 40s when we met, so 20 years had passed since escaping my abuser. I had counselling in my 20s: it helped a lot and since then I've not felt the need to talk about it much. So he doesn't know about how traumatised I was, how I moved away from my home town, how I suppressed my feelings for years and kidded myself that I was fine when actually there was a howling wilderness in my head and I killed the pain in any way I could. Maybe I should tell him all about how I feared for my life and the fallout afterwards. But that would involve me having to drag it all up again, when I was perfectly fine just not thinking about it.

I mean I’d just leave and take my kids with me

if he’s capable of that he’s capable of anything and having minors in the house I’m surprised social services aren’t involved.

have some respect for yourself and your family

Houndinghounds · 18/08/2026 00:06

He’s 25, he needs to get a job and rent a flat. Tell DH, you’ll be moving out if DSS is still there in four weeks.

booksnbaking · 18/08/2026 00:08

Besidemyselfwithworry · 18/08/2026 00:04

His girlfriend also has a husband?

No. That was the answer to a pp's question "Where's the mum?"

LoveMyHorse · 18/08/2026 00:13

Besidemyselfwithworry · 18/08/2026 00:04

His girlfriend also has a husband?

Somebody asked where DSS' mum is - I was responding to that.

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Besidemyselfwithworry · 18/08/2026 00:19

LoveMyHorse · 18/08/2026 00:13

Somebody asked where DSS' mum is - I was responding to that.

I mean if his own mother and stepfather don’t want him there I sure as hell wouldn’t have him at my house! They don’t want him there for a reason and a really good one reading this!

Sensiblesal · 18/08/2026 00:30

Coronation street have a storyline right now about sexual strangulation. Its horrific and so dangerous.

I fully understand why DSS is stressing you out. Is there any way the timeline for him moving in with the GF can be moved up? Can he not go stay with her at least 1/2 nights a week so you get a break from him.

DH needs to understand how triggering and stressful this is for you & he needs to lay down some ground rules with DSS. You shouldn’t need to feel frightened in your own home.

sittingonabeach · 18/08/2026 00:49

How is he going to afford living with girlfriend if he isn’t earning? How did he afford steak?

LoveMyHorse · 18/08/2026 00:51

I wish he could go and stay with his girlfriend - but she's staying with her mum at the moment, and he's not welcome there. I think I'll suggest to DH that he goes to stay at his granny's once a week. They get on well, and she's had a hard time of things recently. She only lives 5 miles away.

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LoveMyHorse · 18/08/2026 00:56

All the plans for him moving out in January seem vague - I'm trying to find out the exact dates, as well as why it can't be until January. If it really is as vague as it seems, then something has to change immediately. Like DH and DSS moving out, because I can see this dragging on for a long time.

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LoveMyHorse · 18/08/2026 00:59

sittingonabeach · 18/08/2026 00:49

How is he going to afford living with girlfriend if he isn’t earning? How did he afford steak?

He had some money left over from his last student grant. That's running low now, hence the starting to look for work. God knows how he'll afford to move in with his girlfriend - she's 200 miles away, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't have much of a plan about the practicalities.

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Any1ForTennis · 18/08/2026 01:03

Is it your house - Can you kick both DSS and his Dad out?

How long have you and his Dad been together - Is the Dad worth keeping to put up with DSS?

Is this affecting your own kids - is being with his Dad worth causing potentially lifelong trauma and resentment for your kids?

Notimeforaname · 18/08/2026 01:07

Hes not moving out in January.
And if he does, he'll be straight back as soon as he fucks it up.

Delphiniumandlupins · 18/08/2026 01:10

Besidemyselfwithworry · 18/08/2026 00:04

His girlfriend also has a husband?

His mum, I reckon

ReadingSoManyThreads · 18/08/2026 01:14

Sensiblesal · 18/08/2026 00:30

Coronation street have a storyline right now about sexual strangulation. Its horrific and so dangerous.

I fully understand why DSS is stressing you out. Is there any way the timeline for him moving in with the GF can be moved up? Can he not go stay with her at least 1/2 nights a week so you get a break from him.

DH needs to understand how triggering and stressful this is for you & he needs to lay down some ground rules with DSS. You shouldn’t need to feel frightened in your own home.

She didn't specify that it was sexual strangulation. My ex-H strangled me many many times, never sexually, always out of sheer rage.

But yes, all strangulation is so dangerous.