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Am in utter shock

756 replies

honeyandbutterontoast · 04/03/2024 02:09

Will start by saying this is an OW thread. So I’m not asking for sympathy, I’m just in utter utter shock.

Twelve years ago I met someone. We were both married. We fell in love (I thought). My DH was a bad man, I’m not excusing myself but he was. I divorced him, took the bare minimum and waited for OM to do the same.

He didn’t. For years it went on, his excuses, so I wouldn’t see him, he begged me to be patient. I was his soulmate, his best friend, etc etc etc. And I loved him so much.

We bought a house together, he decided on completion day that he couldn’t leave her. I was in a financial mess for years over that.

In Oct 22 I gave him an ultimatum (this date is important), he had to leave her or we couldn’t speak anymore (up till this point we emailed and texted multiple times a day). He said he couldn’t leave her, couldn’t be without his kids. He went away on holiday with them.

Stupidly we stayed in touch “as friends”. Daily he would ask to see me. He would tell me he wanted to be with me, no matter what would make it happen.

(Sorry this is an essay)

Last spring we saw each other for lunch a couple of times. Something was off but I couldn’t work out what, he seemed depressed. I started dating again and told him we could only be friends.

In the summer he sent me a photo and I noticed he didn’t have a wedding ring on! He told me he had “recently” left his wife but didn’t know how to tell me. That he wasn’t sure if we should move in together straight away (!!) or just get to know each other as single people.

We met for lunch a couple of times, he had endless excuses why I couldn’t see his new flat. It all seemed odd but somehow plausible. We last saw each other in October but carried on messaging multiple times a day, chatting about everything. Or so I thought.

He told me he was very depressed and unhappy. Needed time to get used to life alone. I truly believed he was unhappy, possibly even suicidal at times.

This evening I received a message. From his girlfriend. Who he lives with. Who he had told he was separated when he met her 18 months ago. Yep when I gave him the ultimatum, he was with her. They have a whole life together.

She is 20 years younger than he is.

We spoke on the phone and while speaking she was looking through his phone. There are multiple women. All that age. It’s been going on for years with them.

How he has time to run a company I do not know.

So here I am, 12 years on. In utter shock. And that poor girl. I didn’t know what to say to her, I could only assure her there has been nothing intimate between us since before she met him. Unfortunately he has been with others.

i honestly would have told you he was my best friend. His behaviour had been odd yes, but I never thought for a moment it was like this.

His last messages to me were how he had an okay day today, hadn’t done much. They are on holiday!!!

I get that in some ways I deserve this. But she doesn’t. He obviously was putting his wedding ring on to meet me! How messed up is that. Or maybe he wasn’t married then anymore?!

And I’m guessing when we were actually in an intimate relationship he was shagging these other women. I really had no idea. He would beg me not to leave him as he was so unhappy but had no idea how to leave without losing his children/business.

Desperately need to sleep but had to get all that out. It’s like an episode of eastenders.

OP posts:
NonPlayerCharacter · 07/03/2024 12:28

honeyandbutterontoast · 07/03/2024 12:25

I had 2 journalists contact me on here.

Who?

SheepAndSword · 07/03/2024 12:28

@honeyandbutterontoast but you put in titillating details on this thread about his fame

YeahIsaidit · 07/03/2024 12:31

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Everythinggreen · 07/03/2024 12:34

honeyandbutterontoast · 07/03/2024 12:27

And no they don’t know who he is as I haven’t told them. I’m also not going to say on here just to prove it! And yes when I met him he wasn’t as well known. 12 years is a long time, people’s careers progress.

So he became "well known" just before he bought a secret house with you but still decided to keep up this secret life and secret house just as his career was exploding and he would have a "media frenzy" if anyone found out. Was that around the same time he told you to tell his wife about you so he didn't have to, at that very point where he risked this career he had just built and would be torn down by the media? Strange timing for someone so clever and manipulative that he can lead mulitiple secret lives.

whatsitcalledwhen · 07/03/2024 13:01

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Everythinggreen · 07/03/2024 13:01

honeyandbutterontoast · 07/03/2024 12:27

And no they don’t know who he is as I haven’t told them. I’m also not going to say on here just to prove it! And yes when I met him he wasn’t as well known. 12 years is a long time, people’s careers progress.

But you said they contacted you because he's a big deal in his world. So which is it, they contacted you because he's a big deal or they don't know who he is so have no idea if he's a big deal?

MRSRUDEBOX · 07/03/2024 13:20

I'd say the journos have contacted the O.P in the hope that she will tell them who it is.

MyGooseisTotallyLoose · 07/03/2024 13:37

Wow what's with all the deletion!

SheepAndSword · 07/03/2024 13:42

MyGooseisTotallyLoose · 07/03/2024 13:37

Wow what's with all the deletion!

I assume some people are sceptical!

NonPlayerCharacter · 07/03/2024 14:09

SheepAndSword · 07/03/2024 13:42

I assume some people are sceptical!

I assume that's why mine has gone, for expressing doubt, but I know that one of the deleted posts was abusive.

Everythinggreen · 07/03/2024 14:28

SheepAndSword · 07/03/2024 13:42

I assume some people are sceptical!

Yep if you openly express doubt instead of just alluding to it, your comment gets deleted.

Anele22 · 07/03/2024 14:30

Everythinggreen · 07/03/2024 14:28

Yep if you openly express doubt instead of just alluding to it, your comment gets deleted.

Why?

Voone · 07/03/2024 14:35

Anele22 · 07/03/2024 14:30

Why?

Because trollhunting is against the rules, so if anyone thinks the OP is trolling they're supposed to report the thread for MN to look behind the scenes.

Anele22 · 07/03/2024 14:37

Voone · 07/03/2024 14:35

Because trollhunting is against the rules, so if anyone thinks the OP is trolling they're supposed to report the thread for MN to look behind the scenes.

So what exactly is troll hunting?

lifebeginsaftercoffee · 07/03/2024 14:38

Anele22 · 07/03/2024 14:37

So what exactly is troll hunting?

Accusing posters of lying/making shit up.

NonPlayerCharacter · 07/03/2024 14:40

Anele22 · 07/03/2024 14:37

So what exactly is troll hunting?

Well I thought it was calling someone a troll. But apparently it includes words to the effect of "Something is off with this, you say 'xxx' but yyy".

Calliopespa · 07/03/2024 14:54

Anele22 · 07/03/2024 14:37

So what exactly is troll hunting?

It’s mostly because if someone claims something awful is happening to them etc and everyone says that’s just so dire it’s not believable ( or some such example), it could be quite soul destroying if the situation the op was in really was that bad. That kind of thing …

D1LL1GAF · 09/03/2024 06:00

honeyandbutterontoast · 07/03/2024 12:25

I had 2 journalists contact me on here.

Why am I not surprised. They trawl for stories on here, its like a reference book for them

Beautiful3 · 09/03/2024 06:43

What about the house op? Is it half his? Or did he pretend to buy it with you then leave you to buy it alone? I'm hoping there's no blow back from all this e.g. he.doesnt sell the home.

Beefcurtains79 · 09/03/2024 07:56

The house story doesn’t make any sense. He pulled out of buying it on day of completion- how did OP think a married man could buy a house with her? Even the thickest mug on the planet would’ve worked out his wife would be entitled to part of their love nest. OP even apparently discussed it with her friends- who also are so stupid they didn’t think of this- and said it was a great idea!
Then even though he pulled out, OP still ended up living in the house with her children, and decorated the house to her married lovers liking.
Make it make sense.

NuttyYouSayHmmmmmn · 09/03/2024 10:13

If the man prematurely pulled out and OP had to complete on her own then she would have had to have paid for the full price of house on her own bar the deposit. Split the deposit 50/50 and OP owns more than 75% of the house (randomly suggesting they put down a 50% deposit which seems unlikely but bear with me for argument’s sake) - so what does the man have to do with it now?

Sell the house and keep the money.

honeyandbutterontoast · 09/03/2024 10:34

I was going to put a detailed explanation on here about gifted deposits and the like but I’ve already given him enough headspace. He has no claim to any money now. I took legal advice on that when I moved.

OP posts:
DriftingDora · 09/03/2024 11:05

There are parts of this that don't add up. And why would journalists be contacting you because he's famous, but they don't know he's famous because they don't know who he is? And as a previous poster has said, how could you think buying a house with this man was viable? You say you've had legal advice - did you take legal advice about the house purchase, as I can't imagine any solicitor would say it was a good idea.

Edited for typo

Catoo · 09/03/2024 11:12

honeyandbutterontoast · 09/03/2024 10:34

I was going to put a detailed explanation on here about gifted deposits and the like but I’ve already given him enough headspace. He has no claim to any money now. I took legal advice on that when I moved.

Onwards and upwards OP.
You’ve a better future awaiting!
💐

tkwal · 09/03/2024 16:57

honeyandbutterontoast · 07/03/2024 12:25

I had 2 journalists contact me on here.

It is entirely possible one of his other exes is angry enough to have contacted them and possibly told them about this thread. Journalists prefer to have more than one source so they can convince their editors its more likely to be true.

Also , if Karma is at play here he will be "named and shamed" he genuinely deserves it. You don't, you're already being hard enough on yourself for falling for his bullshitting/self serving lies

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