Archers thread #195: Run, Amber, run! Discuss The Archers here.

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Emma spoke sense to George and Amber tonight. Goodness only knows where this storyline is going. I can't see George being Father of the Year. Oh dear.

Over to you!

Utter drivel or the SW playing with us. I think it the cast of Near Death on the Nile Bridle Path did it, and the aftershave is called Spartacus. All the suspects wore it that evening.

I don’t know if Ruarhi is strong enough to tackle George. I think of him as being quite weedy- more reliant on his (dubious) charm and wit than physical strength.

A drunk, unexpecting George rather than a sober, expectant George, ready to fight.

Ruari might well be a strapping young man. He’s working on the farm. He was brought up with rural activities. I always imagine Brian as 6’2” and strong in his youth…

I see Ruaridh as looking a bit like a young Ben Wishaw, slightly built, about 5’10-11, dark but more floppy-haired.

Brian is 6’ medium build, brown hair. Siobhan was maybe 5’6, medium build but quite curvy, hourglass size 14, dark brown hair - but hers was wavy/curly, Ruairidh’s is straighter. So R is slighter than either of them. He’s an inch or two taller than Adam.

I am quite certain it wasn't Brian, but I also have a very strong hunch that whoever he thinks actually did it (probably Ruairi) didn't do it either. The only person in the village I can imagine doing this who I wouldn't mind losing from the cast is Mick, so I want it to be him. He was furious with George, and understandably so. He's physically strong and I have a feeling would have no compunction about letting a known villain with a criminal record stand trial and possibly go to prison for this. If Brian were to be charged (exceedingly unlikely) it might be a different matter, but Brian is very canny. I surmise he has an absolutely cast iron alibi for the few minutes in question, which George would quickly have found out if he had started asking around. Brian has fobbed him off to stop him looking at anyone else.

@lottiegarbanzo , Siobhan had red hair.

Listening again I’m not even sure Brian knows who he’s protecting. He just sounds like he wants the whole thing over and done with, so everyone can calm down and move on. Thats in Alice’s interests.

Did she really? Not in my mind 😄

@lottiegarbanzo , Brian mentioned it more than once. 😆

Was a little while ago 😆

Ruairi definitely not red-haired though, that’s Adam’s thing and would have been mentioned. The Irish connection has always made R dark-haired to me.

Ruairi has his mother's hair and it has been mentioned.

Well, I suppose she doesn't need it any more.

the SW aren't competent enough to play with us in an original and/or entertaining way, I'm afraid.

So much out of character drivel is driving me away i fear.

I'm listening again to the omnibus that spans New Year's Eve (sucker for punishment) and as far as I can make out just about anybody could have bonked him on the head. Fallon thought Harrison had done it and wiped the CCTV footage. That seems to have been ruled out. Other than that, has anybody got a decent alibi? Not that I really care, tbh ...

I agree. It's definitely not Brian. He thinks he is protecting someone but that someone is also innocent.
I still think Keira

I'd really like to think that George did it himself, but he'd have missed.

I've decided I have no idea and I'm a bit fed up of the guessing game now but it's been a very long week and I'm getting a bit grumpy 😆

i simply do not care. I don't care enough about any of them to be at all impressed by all the ridiculous red herring stuff.

Hoping it is soon going to be over because it is really getting very very tedious

His and Joy's story about where they'd been was a bit iffy too. I only listened to the first half of this episode and gave up in disgust.

This, in big flashing neon lights.

Yes, I accept that people who have never been further than the bypass need to have different accents so that we can tell them apart on radio.
But recently the same characters are speaking in several different accents in the same episode.

Fallon, George and Will are the current worst offenders.

Also, Amber and Esme, who change accent (and character in the case of Amber) completely from one episode to the next.

Not according to her picture on the cover of the Radio Times, which is reproduced in Charles Collngwood's memoir Brian and I.

Wouldn't Collingwood have noticed if the character he plays went on about Siobhan's red hair (which I never heard him do as far as I can remember)? I tend to notice of people are mentioned as red-headed; Adam is, Jolene is, but I don't recall it being said of either Ruairi or Siobhán.

Did you mean Brian and Me?