How will the abolition of mums and dads effect us and our babies?

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Does anyone else mind not being recognised as the mother of their baby, if the law changes, maybe in the new year, with the marriage changes?
Will mumsnet have to rename itself as LegalParentAnet?

Right, this thread is screaming for a change of subject. What do people fancy? Isn't it amazing being able to see Jupiter so clearly at the moment?

Can you? Where do I need to look? Do I need a telescope? DD1 is just becoming fascinated with planets and we need to spend a lot of time on space websites!

Confused.

Is it a gay bashing thread or an adoption bashing thread?

...adopted children don't feel the same about their adoptive parents??!!! Presumably the birth parents were unable or unwilling to look after them. So I doubt adopted children do feel the same about them as they do about the adoptive parents who have brought them up.

What alternative to adoption does op advocate? If this is on religious grounds may I remind that Joseph adopted Jesus as his son ? He didn't pack him back off to god on the grounds he is legal parent b did he?

I think Empress was trying to make it an astronomy thread instead of either/both those things giveme

Someon on another thread recommended a program called Stellarium, shows you what you can see in the night sky (bugger all here in light-polluted Brum, but hey...). I have downloaded it but not installed it yet so unable to comment how good it is.

Galaxy, have you seen the very bright star near the moon? Jupiter.

I don't really mind what kind of thread it turns into. It just feels like a pretty nasty one right now.

I like the Jesus point though. Where does all this leave Our Father? Our Legal Parent G? Our Illegal Parent?

Shall I have another packet of skips

giveme - Well, I hate Skips, but if you have Wotsits I'd dig in.

Empress - Well well. Never knew that. Will look out tonight!

Well - isn't 'Our Father' really just linguistic. Don't Christians believe that God transcends gender? Or am I getting muddled.

Galaxy as Empress says Jupiter is the brightest star in the sky. This is with the naked eye. Use a telescope or just a set of binoculars (even cheapo kids ones) and it then looks like a planet rather than a star.

I'm loving this thread. It reaffirms my believe in humanity. OP aside.

Our legal parent B, who art in heaven...

Hail Mary, legal parent A of God...

Wel it will take some getting used to but they changed the whole mass last year and it didn't take that long to be off book again so I imagine we'll cope.

I think it's disgraceful to use Legal Parent A and Legal Parent B. It's so discriminatory against Legal Parent B who will always come second to Legal Parent A. This is not equality. Everyone should be Legal Parent A.

How about Legal Parent Red and Legal Parent Yellow?

But why should the letter A have such status?

That discriminates against the whole of the rest of the alphabet. Are you suggesting A is better than B?

Because it's the alpha letter, and let's face reality here, do you want to be in the A-team or the B-team? Although personally I always feel a strong affinity with X, as the minority and most oppressed letter.

I would disagree that X is oppressed. It maybe underused but it is mystery, the unknown, God and self all rolled into one. It is the most exalted letter. It even has its own chromosome.

I think the only solution is to adopt the system used in primary schools to differentiate work.

smiley faces?

In my primary school we were identified by animal groups. I could live with Legal Parent Panda (better than Legal Parent Red and Legal Parent Yellow. What on earth were you thinking Empress?).

Legal parent circle and legal parent square

Legal parent jupiter and legal parent saturn

Legal parent lion and legal parent tiger.

and so on.

Actually Selim, that's not a bad idea. Legal parent lion and legal parent tiger could come with a third option of legal parent bear.

Oh my!

Oh, I agree, the others are a lot better!

GalaxyDisaster - "isn't 'Our Father' really just linguistic. Don't Christians believe that God transcends gender? Or am I getting muddled."

I'm pretty sure the CofE just established beyond all reasonable doubt that God does, in fact, have a penis.
They're still working on the great boxers/briefs schism, though.

I'd deffo be the illegal parent

Hang on, I'm not even a parent...

WHAT AM I DOING HERE?!