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How will the abolition of mums and dads effect us and our babies?

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kfca · 02/12/2012 19:43

Does anyone else mind not being recognised as the mother of their baby, if the law changes, maybe in the new year, with the marriage changes?
Will mumsnet have to rename itself as LegalParentAnet?

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breatheslowly · 02/12/2012 23:46

So you are referring to this poll which was undertaken on behalf of (funded by) the Coalition for Marriage, an anti gay marriage group. The questions in the survey were sufficiently leading that the results are meaningless.

IllageVidiot · 02/12/2012 23:47

ComRes is a market research company Annie.

AnnieLobeseder · 02/12/2012 23:48

Okay, I've found ComRes. So what opinions am I looking for? Opinion on gay marriage? Opinion on adoption? Opinion on change of legal terms for parents? As many of us are saying, we're still not sure what you're actually taking about.

Narked · 02/12/2012 23:49

Yawn.

Alex Salmond will want their number ...

FlaminNoraImPregnantPanda · 02/12/2012 23:50

Are you perchance doing a bit of refuting there breatheslowly? Hmm

Weissdorn · 02/12/2012 23:52

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exexpat · 02/12/2012 23:53

kfca No, the ComRes opinion poll on marriage a) didn't actually ask about gay marriage but then claimed it showed people were opposed to it, and b) was out of step with pretty much every other poll in the past 5 years, which have shown 40-60+% in favour of marriage equality, and a distinct minority (less than 20%) actively opposed to it.

I'm afraid you are on a hiding to nothing with your 'arguments' here - the majority of sane, rational people in the UK do not agree with you and the small handful of religious bigots you seem to share your opinions with.

breatheslowly · 02/12/2012 23:53

This seems to be an interesting piece of analysis here. It is a bit late for me to read it all though.

breatheslowly · 02/12/2012 23:58

Weissdorn - that always comes to mind. I once tried to use that clip as a teaching aide for questionnaire methods and I think my class were very confused.

ChippingInLovesAutumn · 02/12/2012 23:58

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MMMarmite · 03/12/2012 00:04

Breatheslowly: That survey contains wonderfully leading questions. As much as I hate their agenda, I am impressed by their survey writing skills.

"Since gay and lesbian couples have the same rights as married couples available to them under civil partnership, they should not be allowed to redefine marriage for everyone else." Put like that, it sounds almost reasonable. Poor straight people, we are so greedy, wanting to redefine all their marriages. We should cease this equality nonsense forthwith.

breatheslowly · 03/12/2012 00:10

I love that you have decided that we aren't a representative sample and your dodgy research and anecdotal evidence is superior.

To not know one parent who doesn't object to these nebulous statements suggests that you don't mix with a very diverse bunch.

MMMarmite · 03/12/2012 00:10

The best ones are "Do you agree that marriage is between a man and a woman?" Well, yes, I agree; it is. I can't fail to be aware of that awkward fact, having filled out an entire consultation calling on the government to change it. Doesn't mean I think it should be.

cynnerthenaughtyreindeer · 03/12/2012 00:11

I for one would not mind...am sick of hearing all four of my children shriek MUUUUUUUUUMMMMYYYYYYYYYYY! From two floors away. Think hearing them howl LEEEEGAAAALLL PAREEEEEENT AAAAAAAAA would make things a bit more interesting..

piprabbit · 03/12/2012 00:15

My DD has started calling me Mama - like a child in an upper-class Victorian novel. I have no idea why and it is rather embarrassing for me.

My DS has started calling me Pooface. We're going through a tricky phase where toilet humour coupled to a need to challenge authority means that Pooface is the wittiest thing in the whole wide world.

I don't think anyone will be able to get them to call me Parent A unless my DCs really, really want to.

cynnerthenaughtyreindeer · 03/12/2012 00:17

Ohhh..God Pip! My little miss has taken to calling her father poopoohead...must be the age..

piprabbit · 03/12/2012 00:19

cynner, thank you for telling me that. I feel a tiny bit better now, knowing I am not the only Poo Parent.

Devora · 03/12/2012 00:19

Poopoo Fartface in this house...

cynnerthenaughtyreindeer · 03/12/2012 00:21

oh no! I am happy to hear from you! I die just a little when she shouts " POOPOO HEAD! WHERE ARE YOU" in asda...

cynnerthenaughtyreindeer · 03/12/2012 00:22

Devora, I am sure it is said with love..

piprabbit · 03/12/2012 00:25

I bet he was hiding in the Baked Good aisle pretending not to be with either of you Grin. I am literally snorting with laugher.

Devora - that's quite a complex construction, you must be very proud Grin.

Devora · 03/12/2012 00:28

She is indeed gifted, piprabbit. Just not necessarily in the ways a mother would wish for.

SPsFanjoIsSantasLittleHoHoHo · 03/12/2012 00:32

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cynnerthenaughtyreindeer · 03/12/2012 00:36

sighs in admiration SP you always know when to call a cunt a cunt..
I also wish Legal Child D would stop slapping my arse and asking "ohhhhh mummy when will I get a wiggly bum like yours?"

exexpat · 03/12/2012 00:37

(bit late now, but I only came on this thread to do a #pedantscorner post to educate the OP on the correct use of effect and affect - but I doubt she/he would accept anyone's word on that either)