Ann Widdecombe thread part 3

[LuckyHazelFox]

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What? He’s a sadistic evil murderer. He walked in and hammered her skull in. Yes he then robbed her, but he didn’t drive 6 hours to rob her, he drove six hours to murder her. And was then taking keep sakes or momentos of his crime. That’s why he asked for id or bank cards. That’s why he took her purse. That’s why he photographed it. It was a memento. Something he could look at to remind him of what he did,

he also clearly didn’t know there was a camera in her hallway. Recording his brutal attack.

That poor woman. No one should have to suffer that. As was said upthread, she was a woman of deep faith, I hope it was comforting to her during those moments and I hope those who loved her find comfort too.

just awful, i couldnt read about this earlier, could not face the news

and the poor gardener was actually asked to a welfare check - at least i think it was the gardener?

No, it stated in court she died from a blunt force injury.

I never said he was actually a burglar! Just implied it was unlikely. Otherwise I totally agree with you. So sick.

The picture in the papers is a photo of the accused from 2022. The ‘face’ shown on the camera photo of a man getting into a red Corsa is AI-generated.

I don’t think there are words for this brutal attack. Having lived very near to her house, it’s hard to explain just how remote Haytor is. Keeping her doors unlocked would be perfectly normal. Poor Ann.

Horrific, as pp have said. A 78 year old woman having a quiet lunch at home in Devon, then a man walks in and bludgeons her to death. I really hope that the first blow knocked her out and she didn't feel the other 20 .
So distressing. Poor Ann 🙏

She was my MP when i lived in Kent, and I have never had a better one despite being on different sides of politics. Her letters were completely written in her "voice".

Rest in peace and rise in glory, Ann.

She always sounded very authentic, didn't she? It wasn't about soundbites or getting power for her.

So pointlessly awful.

Just a completely unnecessary and violent end to a productive and principled life.

And at 78. She looks quite frail in recent images. Just eating lunch alone in her house.

Our public figures are increasingly vulnerable, and the polarisation of politics and demonisation of individuals is driving this kind of radicalisation.

Absolutely..we seem to be losing the middle ground. It's an increasingly polarised society and it's getting worse.
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That’s sinister. I suppose the police will be able to trace the device the photos were sent to. I won’t speculate further, it’s disrespectful to Ann.

If they had CCTV evidence of the attack then why did they arrest the gardener first?

That doesn’t bear thinking about!

From the news reports it seems that the gardener was asked to do a welfare check on the day of the murder, but didn’t find her until the following day. 😤

I can only guess that he (the gardener) looks a lot like the suspect.

The other thing that bothers me is her message chain with the telly producers. When she abruptly stops replying they ask if everything is ok and try to ring her a few times. But why did nobody call the police for a welfare check then? I know it wouldn't have saved her but it would've spared her having to lie dead in her kitchen for a whole day and night.

It's so sickening and so bizarre, the method, the travel, the trophies photographed, everything about this horrible murder is just beyond comprehension to me anyway.

I can only imagine how her family and relatives are feeling, knowing the horrendous details of her death now.

Something very very strange about this.

I assume they look similar. Thay would be the obvious answer. No?

I’d imagine so. He was asked to go and check on her

It’s scary that on the same day this is being heard in court, people say this sort of thing

Did they arrest the gardener? I know they arrested someone in a local town but I’m not sure they said who it was (quite rightly IMO, as the first person arrested was fairly quickly discounted)

What recording?

Pretty shocked at the DM publishing all that information about his family with names and things

Something doesn't sit right with me.

With the details coming out about the extent of her injuries, why at the beginning were the police stating it "might be a murder"? Seems pretty clear cut!!!