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Trump Trial Time - banish all memories of Mueller.

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Spandauer · 19/04/2024 16:29

Is this #132?
Still trying to rid the world of this troublesome twat.

Old thread here:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4912378-trump-gets-gagged-mccarthy-gets-booted-whats-next-in-trumpworld

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SerendipityJane · 15/07/2024 17:28

Spandauer · 15/07/2024 17:10

Sadly I can't vote or influence anyone in the US. My DH and DC can only vote in Presidential elections as they live in the UK. They absolutely do take an interest in what is happening in the country (US and U.K.) Their votes helped Labour get elected. Unfortunately their votes for Biden (or his replacement) in a Democratic state won't make much difference to the outcome in November.

Are we "in control"? - if we are then that control is hanging by a thread.

Can't speak for the US, but in the UK 40% of people actively decided to withdraw from politics. And with them, there goes the safety net.

Spandauer · 15/07/2024 20:13

Trump says he will announce his VP pick today.

So then there'll be 2 of 'em. Great.

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DuncinToffee · 15/07/2024 20:36

Spandauer · 15/07/2024 20:13

Trump says he will announce his VP pick today.

So then there'll be 2 of 'em. Great.

JD Vance confirmed

AcrossthePond55 · 15/07/2024 20:38

And the wiener, I mean winner, is JD Vance (R Ohio).

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/15/politics/trump-vp-pick-jd-vance/index.html

I'm so upset about the classified docs case I could scream. I don't know the rationale as I'm too angry to read about it, I assume 'Presidential Immunity', but I'm hoping the case can be re-filed.

Trump selects Ohio Sen. JD Vance as his running mate | CNN Politics

US Sen. JD Vance, a venture capitalist and the author of the best-selling memoir “Hillbilly Elegy,” was elected to the Senate in 2022.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/15/politics/trump-vp-pick-jd-vance/index.html

DuncinToffee · 15/07/2024 20:39

A quick primer on J.D. Vance, Trump’s VP nominee:

-once called Trump “America’s Hitler”
-supports nat’l abortion ban without exceptions for rape/incest
-doesn’t believe in gay marriage
-proponent of white supremacist Great Replacement Theory
-supports Russia’s war on Ukraine

Spandauer · 15/07/2024 20:48

Mike Pence held mostly similar views as I recall.

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BruceAndNosh · 15/07/2024 21:08

So the point of jd vance is to make Trump look moderate?!

Like Pence, Trump has chosen someone who won't overshadow him

prettybird · 15/07/2024 21:34

Re Judge Cannon throwing out the documents case: dh says that a lot of US commentators are suggesting it might be a good thing Confused

As a loyal Trumpite, she was doing all she could to delay it Hmm and would've continued to sabotage proceedings. Angry

Smith will already have his appeal ready. If once it succeeds, they'll get a different judge and will maybe be able to make more progress.

I'm not as confident as dh Sad. My fear is that Trump will succeed in getting away with it due to the Supreme Court's immunity ruling.

Wallaw · 15/07/2024 22:02

AcrossthePond55 · 15/07/2024 20:38

And the wiener, I mean winner, is JD Vance (R Ohio).

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/15/politics/trump-vp-pick-jd-vance/index.html

I'm so upset about the classified docs case I could scream. I don't know the rationale as I'm too angry to read about it, I assume 'Presidential Immunity', but I'm hoping the case can be re-filed.

I haven't read it, but my DH said it's worse than that - it was based on Thomas's weird concurrence where he says Jack Smith wasn't legally appointed. They really are doing Trump's legal work, aren't they?

I just feel sick to my stomach at the fact all of this is literally happening before our eyes.

BruceAndNosh · 15/07/2024 23:24

The widow of rally attendee who died declined to accept phone call from Joe Biden as her husband wouldn't have like it.
Trump has not tried to make contact with her.

DuncinToffee · 16/07/2024 08:27

This is what Vance had to say about the UK Hmm

JD Vance takes a shot at the UK Labour Party: “What is the first truly Islamist country to get a nuke? And we were like, maybe it's Iran, maybe Pakistan already kind of counts. And then we finally decided maybe it's actually the UK since Labour took over."

Spandauer · 16/07/2024 08:54

Choosing Vance could (and it's a big 'could') be a risky choice for Trump. Vance's views on abortion, women's rights, no divorce etc etc 'could' be the silver bullet.
Read what not just Trump and Vance believe, but also what the far right republicans are promoting with Project 25/Agenda 47.

They are coming for you - unless you're a white male of course.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1812959915582824948.html?utm_campaign=topunroll

Thread by @michaelharriot on Thread Reader App

@michaelharriot: Although there have been discussions & articles about Project 2025, VERY FEW focus specifically on Trump's plans for Black Americans That's why I read all 922 pages of #Project2025 as well as #Agend...…

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1812959915582824948.html

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PerkingFaintly · 16/07/2024 14:02

More on Vance – including him calling Trump "America's Hitler" and the UK an Islamist country.

He certainly knows how to stir.

JD Vance was once 'never Trump'. Now he's his running mate
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn07dv4mrg2o

Spandauer · 16/07/2024 14:18

Well, as they say... if you don't laugh you'd have to cry.

Also saw a claim that the pearly-white bandage only appeared just before he took to the floor at the RNC. Wasn't wearing any type of surgical dressing prior to then.

Trump Trial Time - banish all memories of Mueller.
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DuncinToffee · 16/07/2024 20:08

https://www.channel4.com/news/revealed-trump-campaign-secret-data-on-gunmans-family

Channel 4 News can reveal that Thomas Crooks's, [the shooter's] father, the owner of the rifle that was used to shoot at Donald Trump, was held on a database and profiled by the former president's election campaign and identified by them as a strong Republican supporter, gun owner and hunter.
The information was compiled as part of a secret Republican project to gather data on millions of gun owners across America and use it to target pro-gun messages in the run up to the 2016 election...
We know they profiled them using secret computer models to identify likely gun owners and enthusiasts, and Mr. Crooks scored very highly, 0.99 out of 1 for being a gun owner and 0.95 out of one 1 being a hunter.
In fact, out of more than 19,000 people in Bethel Park who were profiled, Mr. Crooks was in the top 20 and the database classified him as a strong GOP or Republican voter."

REVEALED: Trump campaign secret data on gunman’s family

The family of Trump’s would-be assassin Thomas Crooks was among millions of voters profiled by Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign

https://www.channel4.com/news/revealed-trump-campaign-secret-data-on-gunmans-family

Spandauer · 16/07/2024 22:44

👀

Biden set to announce support for major Supreme Court changes.

Plans include proposals for legislation to establish term limits for the justices and an enforceable ethics code.
wapo.st/4bGC9gI

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PerkingFaintly · 17/07/2024 12:07

DuncinToffee · 16/07/2024 20:08

https://www.channel4.com/news/revealed-trump-campaign-secret-data-on-gunmans-family

Channel 4 News can reveal that Thomas Crooks's, [the shooter's] father, the owner of the rifle that was used to shoot at Donald Trump, was held on a database and profiled by the former president's election campaign and identified by them as a strong Republican supporter, gun owner and hunter.
The information was compiled as part of a secret Republican project to gather data on millions of gun owners across America and use it to target pro-gun messages in the run up to the 2016 election...
We know they profiled them using secret computer models to identify likely gun owners and enthusiasts, and Mr. Crooks scored very highly, 0.99 out of 1 for being a gun owner and 0.95 out of one 1 being a hunter.
In fact, out of more than 19,000 people in Bethel Park who were profiled, Mr. Crooks was in the top 20 and the database classified him as a strong GOP or Republican voter."

Shock
DuncinToffee · 17/07/2024 19:35

The Trump sympathy bounce in the polls didn't really happen

Thread with different polls

https://x.com/OwenWntr/status/1813252330927640744

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 17/07/2024 21:30

His injury seems to have been the equivalent of him having cut himself shaving. And inflicted by someone who was just one more school-shooter type, not really politically motivated at all. What's to sympathise with, really? The widow of the guy beside him who was killed, sure; but Trump? Nah.

I wonder if Trump has yet bothered to ring her to offer his condolences.

DuncinToffee · 18/07/2024 08:58

Biden has tested positive for Covid.

Zonder · 18/07/2024 10:17

Yeah they said last night he has to pause his campaign. Time to sort out a new person.

Spandauer · 18/07/2024 10:24

Even if the Dems come together and decide once and for all it's Biden on the ticket we still go into every day with the worry of what/how is Biden doing. And it's going to be the daily torture until November.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

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Eyesopenwideawake · 18/07/2024 11:16

They won't. It's over bar the shouting for Biden and I think he's accepted that. I just hope they can come together and chose a successor without ripping themselves apart.

DuncinToffee · 18/07/2024 11:32

https://x.com/ezraklein/status/1813779276128526733

First the Schumer leak, now Pelosi. "Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi privately told President Joe Biden in a recent conversation that polling shows that the president cannot defeat Donald Trump and that Biden could destroy Democrats’ chances of winning the House in November if he continues seeking a second term, according to four sources briefed on the call"