The under/over/around 1 Twins thread for support, tips on how to survive and enjoy twin parenthood!

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BB3: dcda non id girls Sept 2011 (plus ds)
TwelveLeggedWalk: DCDA DD and DS 14.09.11 (PFBs)
Tiggersreturn twin boys (?!) (plus ds age 5)
Wherearemyearplugs twins (plus ds)
Ceeveebee b/g twins 21.11.11, PFBs
minesapintofwine: non-id boys 02/02/2012. dcs 1&2/pfb on good days.
ClaireMarathonFeeder: Boy/girl twins born 08/02/2012, no3&4, dd1 (2001) and dd2 (2004)
rednellie nonID boys 13.03.2012 + DD 03.02.10
Lemele: id boys (plus ds)
Skitoo : DCDA Non ID Boys, 01.04.12 DC 1&2
DreamingofPeace: dcda non id boys, 4.4.12 DC 2&3 (DD Sept 2010)
beyoglu: dcda non id girls 21.4.12
Bigboobsatlast ID twin boys 30.04.12 DC #2&3 (DD Feb 2010)
Scollister mcda girls 3.5.12 plus DD age 4
Twin2makes4 mcda girls plus 2 ds,age 8 & 4

Again, sorry for mistakes, doing this from my phone!

Settle in ladies :)

Oh god garden, you poor thing. I totally empathise about the 'this is not how it was meant to be' feeling, in fact I'm pretty sure I wailed something similar to DH the day I was discharged (without the DTs).

Just keep doing whatever you can to get through, it will get better, I promise it will. And premmies seem to have an amazing ability to scare you, then bounce back.

Did your hospital do a discharge briefing with resuss techniques? The kind of thing you hope you NEVER need but reassuring to have the knowledge - I think we got a quick reference leaflet too. Might be something to ask your HV about?

Thanks Nancy and Twelve.

Yes, they did do basic resuss techniques. I also remembered a bit from my pediatric first aid training. Since all the drama, DT2 has had another 2 'episodes'. I just don't know what else to call them. She goes as red as a beetroot and seems to stop breathing. It is frightening to see. Both times happened in her cot. The pediatrician at the hospital said to pick her up, blow into her face and turn her over when it happens. They said at least she isn't going blue and that red is a good colour to turn. Not very reassuring to me though. She is being seen by a pediatrician on the 17th.

Any ideas of what it could be? They seem to think she is breath holding from the pain of bad reflux. I know she doesn't have reflux. She get bubbles of saliva around her mouth when it happens and seems zoned out for a little while afterwards. I hope we can get to the bottom of it soon.

They were born at 34+5 and she was 6lb1 at birth so not a dinky little baby.

Hello gardenpixies

it sounds like you have had it pretty tough, makes me moan about not sleeping feel like a wimp!

Hopefully the worst is over for you now and as you ahve said, it can only get better.

Tbh though, even when everything is plainsailing motherhood with twins is just not the same as with one, unfortunately you just can't enjoy them as much as you would with one

Can you tell I've had another horrible night?? Nancy look away now!

This bloody couh will not go away, and I am at the end of my tether and so is dh, he's working 14 hours day and sometimes working from home after that...found him on his laptop during the night when I needed help as both were up...and it's starting to take its toll, we're both on a short fuse with the other dds, poor things, and it's a matter of time before we start yelling at each other

Claire please pass over the matchsticks.

Hope things get better.

Joins Claire with the weeping. Fecking awful nights here....

And gsrdenpixies sounds bloody awful. Two is just so much harder than one though, my boys are 8 months 1 day today, I was loving it so much we were ttc by now after DD!!!! Ha!

Haha dream I do NOT think we will be ttc anytime soon if ever!! Lol

Can I join you on the seriously fed up bench? You know it's a bad start to the day when your breakfast is a packet of wotsits at 11am and you seriously contemplate adding baileys in your coffee

I feel really bad about that last post it was so whingy. garden what an awful time you've had hope they will find out what's wrong soon.

claire my dts are waking for a night feed again after sleeping through for a week. Tbh I think it's teething but milk settles them so I don't really mind. If you ever find out the magic trick though I want to know about it! Also me and dh argued the other night it's not good and clever but it happens it's sleep deprivation, stress and just everything but it's not for ever! It gets easier-doesn't it? nancy actually it does get easier so hang on in there 3 months is a good time.

O god here we go again...where did I put the baileys?

He he Nancy, me neither though i would like one more . I got pregnant with the boys when DD was 10 months old, and the thought this time makes me shudder, it'd be really hard with a small age gap again!

gardenpixies is she crying in her cot at the time? Is she breath-holding? Sounds scary and I don't really have any advice. The picking up, blowing on her and turning her over sounds sensible. You must be exhausted after all your ill health too. Have a large lukewarm hot

This. Is another whinge, sorry

I feel like at breaking poi t. Dtg woke up after only 40 mins sleep, fed to sleep, back in cot, wokeup, fed again but massive cough meant she was sick all over herself and me.

Been trying to settle her ever since, she's fed for nearly an hour to no avail, is now being v cheeky.

Dd2 has gone to bed by herself, dd1 is doing honework on her own. I just want to cry. Dh still at work.

Apologies for the whinge fest everyone, I really feel like I've got noine else to talk to at the moment.

Bless her, she has just gone to sleep on my stomach, while clicking her tongue... I am exhausted though

Oh god t I think we all need some baileys, mines! Can't believe you want another, dream!!
Will i suddenly decide I want another in a few months time?? I can't see it!
Sounds like you're having a really tough time, Claire. No advice I'm afraid as I'm totally clueless! Can't imagine what it's like with four! Sending you lots of virtual hugs and support though! My two were up loads last night, not asking to be fed this morning, unsurprisingly - they filled themselves up during the night!!
So my mum was supposed to be coming yesterday but the flight was delayed because there was like an inch of snow in Newcastle. Arriving today hopefully!

Claire, I've no solution but am at breaking point too. 3 hours is the best possible stretch of sleep from DT1. He's been up hourly though last night, and awake 3-5:30, and there were lots of tears all round. I've already snapped at poor DD and she's only being a cheeky toddler, not even naughty.

I thought it'd be getting better by now?!

me too dream

shame we can't get meet up and drown our sorrows moan together.
More vomit last night and a 2 hour feedathon to get her back to sleep.

No nap today. he went down well, but she'd wake up every time I tried to put her in the cot. Third time I tried to shush and pat, and she woke her brother too. Brilliant! Not

Bailyes and coffee you say mines ? Now there's a thought

Nancy hope your mum makes it soon and thanks for the hugs

Hallo ladies! I'm still trying to catch up on all the posts but the stupid app keeps crashing somewhere in Sept so apologies for lack of personals.
I'm finding things really hard ATM, girls are 7 months and half decent sleep went out the window around 5 months, at least one was awake until 5am this morning, leaving me with an hours sleep
I am exhausted and stressed so snapping at DD1 and DH and now tearful too.
Anyway, on the plus side the girls are adorable and generally happy babies, enjoying BLW (omg, the amount of washing and cleaning, what was I thinking?).
They have been sitting since around 4 months and got mobile around 5 months although haven't managed to coordinate their limbs to crawl yet ... But move quite far very quickly.
Sorry about the selfish moan, hope to catch up properly soon.
Waves xxx

Absolutely Claire, I've had more 3 am full bed changes, sleeping bag changes etc etc. He self settles every evening, so bedtime is ok, but he is waking up by 9:30 and its hell from there on, waking every 1-2 hours with either extended feeding to sleep or long period of wakefulness.
Today for the first time I couldn't push through, my dh is off, my dad came up and they took my three to music group. I couldn't get to sleep though, blocked duct again which is so sore and I feel rough with it, plus I hurt my shoulder last week so can't get comfy. I ended up in tears by myself at home over how tired I am and that I just feel like I can barely cope atm.

I feel so whingey compared to bigboobs with her babies in hospital recently, gardenpixies with a pretty hellish first few weeks etc etc. And I've got more help in

the day than you Claire .

I think I feel like i should be coping better... But the extreme sleep deprivation is a killer.

I'll raise a distant Bailey's to you Claire and hope we both see the light at the end of the tunnel soon

Hello! Waves manically!

garden - it will and does get better. You are amazing and doing a stonking job.

Claire - I'm so sorry things are hard. I've got a brilliant ebook on sleep if you want it? Might clarify some stuff. Also I find me and DH are often too tired to work out a plan so having something written down helps.

Everyone else - you're all fab. Breaking points are reached but we will get through!

Can I just clarify that I'm currently lying in bed listening to DH feed everyone as I totally lost it. No child in our house is eating. They have all thrown up on me this week (in bra, my slippers, into my hands and somehow down my pants) as have I, violently, whilst watching mastrchef. And breath. Seriously this week has been RIDICULOUS, but you know what? Listening to them now, DD and DH encouraging the boys to eat, the crying has stopped and I can hear giggling. I love them all so much.

Sorry not sure where I was going with that! Just feeling wretched/sentimental/ill. Glad I've got you lot to spout shit at!

Change of subject: what we all doing for Christmas?

Oh and my period's come back. With a vengeance. In fact if it continues like this I might need a transfusion.

Sorry! TMI

I'm thinking of cracking open the vodka never mind the baileys we all have sickness and diarrea (tmi here too red) dt1 had to go to a and e with a fecking splinter I've had a plumber here causing total mess christmas is stressing me out big time and in the midst of it all dt1 was awake 11.30-4 last night. All I can say is thank the lord for my dmum who turned up just as I was going food shopping (late) with two whingy babies and a dicky tummy and took em over hers. I am about to put on my work uniform and have a cuppa in peace before I go meet dh there and give my mum a massive hug and box of chocolates-boak....

Whinge, whinge, scream, cry, whinge.......

Have we killed the thread or is everyone so tired even mnetting is too much?

Sorry haven't posted as it's more of the same old. No sleep, vomiting dtg...

Didn't want to just come on here to whinge...

I am reading. Only ever reading.

bigboobs! How are your babies?

Another lurker here, typing too much effort amidst the oceans of snot we seem to be constantly battling!

Right, enough winging... (For a while anyhow!). What's the cutest/funniest thing your DTs have done this week?
Mine would be dancing to Gangnam Style. Then dancing a bit Gangnam Style to ANY music (nursery rhymes, the BBC News opening music....)
When I peel a clementine for htem I hold each segment up to the light to check for pips. DD now holds every segment up like a trophy before she eats it!
And today when I lay on the sofa collapsed with exhaustion DS brought over both of their coats and piled them on top of me, kind of like a blanket! Very cute, until he stole them back 10 minutes later!