The under/over/around 1 Twins thread for support, tips on how to survive and enjoy twin parenthood!

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BB3: dcda non id girls Sept 2011 (plus ds)
TwelveLeggedWalk: DCDA DD and DS 14.09.11 (PFBs)
Tiggersreturn twin boys (?!) (plus ds age 5)
Wherearemyearplugs twins (plus ds)
Ceeveebee b/g twins 21.11.11, PFBs
minesapintofwine: non-id boys 02/02/2012. dcs 1&2/pfb on good days.
ClaireMarathonFeeder: Boy/girl twins born 08/02/2012, no3&4, dd1 (2001) and dd2 (2004)
rednellie nonID boys 13.03.2012 + DD 03.02.10
Lemele: id boys (plus ds)
Skitoo : DCDA Non ID Boys, 01.04.12 DC 1&2
DreamingofPeace: dcda non id boys, 4.4.12 DC 2&3 (DD Sept 2010)
beyoglu: dcda non id girls 21.4.12
Bigboobsatlast ID twin boys 30.04.12 DC #2&3 (DD Feb 2010)
Scollister mcda girls 3.5.12 plus DD age 4
Twin2makes4 mcda girls plus 2 ds,age 8 & 4

Again, sorry for mistakes, doing this from my phone!

Settle in ladies :)

Oops, accidental post...

A pic of my dts smiling at each other and reaching out for each other at 14 or 15 weeks Nancy . I swap each day, used to swap each feed as my left boob seemed to produce more plus one twin feeds better, so to make sure I kept supply up in both it was change each feed.

Claire mine are 7.5 months, and I'm despairing of them ever sleeping through til they go to school...

Bit jealous of all this moving round action, mine are happy to just sit or just lie on their backs (both hate tummy time). I'm getting nervous they won't crawl like DD. They are so smiley and interactive now and generally adorable though except at night . Still coughing. In fact, DT1, the main culprit, is still so mucousy he's vomiting loads, including into my bed at 5:30am. We were both covered, plus the bed, floor, and trail as I legged it to the bathroom where he finished off. Yuck yuck yuck, what a start to the day...

I hope your babies are enjoying being at home thereis, I can only imagine how difficult it would be having your babies spend 3 months in hospital but how fantastic they've normal mri scans. That must be a bit of a relief.

And speaking of hospital, I've been thinking of you bigboobs, hope your boys are home and recovering well.

Hope your night out was good minesapint well impressed you get all your jobs plus day job done

Ah dream I bet it's a gorgeous photo!! Can't wait til they start smiling at each other!

Ooh, found a pic of them gazing at each other at 15 weeks Nancy put it on my profile. They laugh at each other all the time now, can cheer each other up and watching them interact makes the hard bits of twins so worthwhile. Hang in there was absolutely torture for me with my screamers til 4-5 months

Couldn't find the actual picture I was thinking of though, hmm...

Ahhh I had a look, how cute are they!!!! Lovely!

Lovely pic dream. We're ok here, everyone's got colds etc, but we're surviving.

My two boys have only just started noticing each other and they're almost 9 months! DT1 is crawling and DT2 is almost doing it, but he loves standing (holding on). Lots of 'dadas' and babbling. They're already eating me out fo house and home. I'm cooking everyone the same food now, can't be arsed making seperate baby food anymore. God help me when they're all teenagers. I think they've now been out longer than they were in...time is passing!

Hope everyone is well.

hello hello, it's me Claire with a name change

we still have colds, but dtb is much better and just as well as his sister has a terrible cough that keeps her up what a change and makes her vomit, nice. Last night was horrible, they went to bed at 8 and I had about half an hour before I had to go upstairs again for dtg, then managed a shower, as soon as got dressed he wakes up, I settle him, he's very nearly alseep adn she wakes again, so I hand him over to dh to get her, to find that she's been sick, so change beddin, sleepsuit, sleeping bag. Result: she's wide awake and won't go to sleep... he finally drops off with dh at midnight but she doesn't until 1.20 and she spends most of this time sucking my boob or rolling around in bed with me terrified that she might fall off not that has happened before it's 1pm here and they have been up since 8 (dtg) and 9(dtb) and no sign of wanting to sleep...

Aaaargh

dream that is a lovely photo! Be happy they are not moving, I ahve no respite now, except when I trick them into staying in the playpen... I can't even feed one without the other getting up to all sorts of mischief, and it does make nap times very tricky, since mine are fed to sleep every time

Nancy mine were the same, started looking at each other between 3-4 months, now I sometimes find them giggling together in the playpen, they are so cute, and yes it makes up for all the rest!

Hope everyone else is fine

claire - was it you who's DD had a bladder issue? I'm only asking as our DD is having a few recurring problems and I was wondering if I could pick your brain...of course, it may not be you as I am not making much sense at the mo.

yes it me red she had incontinence day & night until recently... , if it is something similar ask away (or PM)!

Happy to share my knowledge (since I struggled so much to find a solution!)

Coughs finally going here, and it's so much better! Feel for you claire that's just what we'd been having, puking everywhere all the time, especially at night as they're so much more muciusy as they're laid down. And the washing it creates!!

Weaning still totally hit or miss, but I think both still look pretty ok and are growing so trying not to worry. Still not heard whether I'll get my career break at work.

I almost maybe could have had some sleep last night, DT1 only woke twice (miracle and probably won't be repeated for months again), DT2 once (!!!) but DD uo three times.... I'm never getting any sleep am I?!

Well done to your crawler/ nearly crawler rednellie. Think we need a pic update, would love to see them, and yours claire. In fact, think we should all do one . Can I pick your brain for any good recipes with no dairy red? I've offered meatballs, chicken in a slow cooker so super tender, various roasted veg... They'll eat sweet roasted veg but minimal success with anything else. Oh, but I'm a fairly terrible cook

Anyway, need a shower so I'm off, my first waker'll be up in a minute...

aw your photos are so lovely dream I really should put some decent ones on mine are old now. Also how neat was your bump!?!

I agree with you red the babies eat what we eat most of the time as really can't be arsed cooking something different. It's just mushier. Though progressing to chopped up now. They seem to live on jacket potatoes though for lunch as I love them too! If it's something I'm not sure of (eg, too spicy etc) that's when the jars come out! Btw have you found a nanny yet?

Sorry for the sleepless night claire. I'm going to give you hope though. My dts went downhill with night sleep and the last three weeks (co-inciding with my return to work) have been the worst of the worst until I was literally looking like a panda with dark circles then all of a sudden without warning...they slept through again the last two nights. Yay! And they are very settled tonight. They turn 10 months this weekend and I know yours do very soon after so am hopeful that spartacus and beyou were right and the 9 month thing is real (not for those with younger dts obviously). So any day now it could happen keep us posted! It's not all joy though. Sleep through is great. Waking at 6.15 on my day off is just not .

dream I would be glad for non moving dts too. It took me forever to leave the house this am due to wriggly babies who were undressing each other and themselves when I tried to dress the other or..god forbid..brush my hair. Then dt2 didn't want to go in car seat so arched his back and yelled at me. Then the same in pushchair. Then we dragged my poor dog all around the lake in arctic weather.Then dt1 threw up on me when I got him out of the pushchair followed by a cheeky . Then we came home had dinner and did it all again this pm. This is turning into a bit of a rant sorry. On the plus side and to answer a bit more of nancys question they spent half the pm crawling at breakneck speed to get away from my elderly nan who uses a walking stick. And laughing. Dt1 snorts when he laughs. If all else fails (the housework) wear em out!

Hi all!

dream cute photos! My two sometimes face each other on the playmat and laugh - I love it. Fingers crossed for the career break.

red I swear about half our food shop is the girls now! It would help if they would eat more of it and not just drop it on the floor/down their dungarees...

claire I hope the cold/cough's starting to go - poor wee things! Bloody winter.

DT2 here has a cold and is making heavy weather of it. Not helping that gran is here... I thought I had completely babyproofed her but she managed to almost put DT2 to sleep by stroking her hair this morning, half an hour before nap time when DT1 was still wide awake... in the end I had to walk the floor with DT2 till DT1 was sleepy enough to go in and then we put them to bed together... "what would you do if you were alone?" she says. It wouldn't happen if I was alone because I wouldn't bloody put the wean to sleep in my arms! Oh god and running after them constantly "in case they hit their heads when they roll over", getting a mussy out for every dribble... how did that woman manage with a kid in the house I will never know. (Oh aye that's right I remember, I used to get yelled at constantly for making a mess) Feeling slightly nervous now about going out tonight - she's kindly offered to babysit but if the girls wake up I just do not trust her not to be up there giving them cuddles and all sorts. OH WELL BLOODY GRANDPARENTS I suppose I will just drink a lot of nice wine and not effing worry about it.

claire - was it constant the incontinence? We've just yet another spate of DD wetting frequently, but she only does it when she's ill (cold or whatever). I've tried to raise with the doc who just does a urine test and says there's nothing wrong and the HV's think I'm mad as they think no child is dry at night (for e.g.) before 3. But DD is, or sometimes is, and then when she gets ill she can wet the bed up to 3/4 times a night. I've put her back in nappies as it's too much stress for everyone...sigh. Anyway, sorry your lot are coldy. This time of year really is ridiculous.

beyoglu - I say make the most of your Mum helping out! And enjoy your night out, one night of her cuddling wont make any difference. I promise. I say this as I've had my DMum here and she spent almost every night elbowing us out of the boys room so she could cwtch them into submission. I was totally paranoid she'd spoil all our totally useless and ineffectual good work getting them to sleep, but she didn't. In fact they seem to be sleeping much better since her cuddle fest

mines, thanks for asking about nanny. I found someone I thought I liked, but she's re-arranged coming round to talk about it all 3 times now and I'm just starting to get a bit pissed off. If she can't keep to a meeting time, there's not much hope is there? But this weekend I'm spending in Somerset discussing my job with my friend/now boss. I'm excited/terrified.

Anyway, I'm off to drink wine and eat lots of food. The brilliant benefit of being dairy free is that I've lost loads of weight so am enjoying being able to stuff my face without the guilt! (not that I was ever that worried, or guilty. )

Had to laugh at the grans cuddling babies they just cannot help themselves!

sorry bit quick there! red No she doen't sound very reliable it must be disapointing but best to find out now. Enjoy the weekend!

beyou hooray for a night out the great escape and hooray for babysitters even if they do everything I wouldn't!

red yes it was, she potty trained very late (nearly 4), and was kind if dry for a few months only,she wore night nappies until about 9 when she was finally given tge right meds. All the drs we have seen would not do any investigations until at least 5, it is still considered within a "normal" range til then. Eventually she was diagnosed with an overactive bladder, basically she'd get signal to wee way before it was full, and always with urgency.

She used to get lots of utis which were an effectif the constant wetting.

It is very early to be concerned about your dd, but things that help are going at regular intervals, drinking liads, making sure she's not constipated. A very useful source if info is this website: www.eric.org

Could it be stressrelated? You know with the twins birth, the moveetc? I knew in dd1's it definitely wasn't, But it's supposed to be quite common.

Sorry I can't be more helpful.

We had a nightmare nught again , both babies using me as a dummy... As soon as one was settled the other would wake up.. I must have slept 3-4 hours max. And spent the rest of the night with one ir the other attached to my boob. This really can't go on, but the options don't seem very appealing. (Cc? Stopping bf?)

(Weeps)

Claire that pretty much describes the last two nights with DT1 here, plus DT2 has one or two night feeds.

Constant bloody winter illness doesn't help!!!

Hope you get there with your DD red . I was toilet trained at just 2 and was dry at night within 3-4 months. My sister was at 2.5 and dry at night immediately (but has never drunk so much) so crap advice from the hv as usual

Not that I think there's a problem red, my DD is 26 months, 27 months on the 9th and won't entertain the idea of sitting on the potty or toilet

My boys can finally both roll over, not that they do it much. Still no sign of moving about. 8 months old in 2 days, growing fast! They giggle at each other so much now, which is lovely, and just love toddler watching :)

And i can't face the whole house being up and the trauma of cc Claire, so if you think of a plan, I'll join in, moral support all round! Putting back in his cot every feed worked last night, but doesn't always (abandoned the Night before after he woke poor DT2 up 3 times wailing on

Hi all,

sorry havent got time to comment on all but just had a quick read and you are not giving me hope that i will one day get some sleep!

Not much news apart from that the MIL is driving me insane, luckily my mum is coming to stay tomorrow so she'll have to back off a bit....

Hello all, it goes ill/work/ill/teething/ill/work here at the moment.

I am still reading but not much time to post! Glad you found us Nancy, hope all's going well.

Whoever asked about interaction - ours now play hide and seek around the dining table legs, giggling hysterically, and bathtime involved mopping the whole room after splashing duels! Very cute.

I think we've had our first words - 'Quack/Duck' , possibly the odd 'Mum' and 'No'!

Hi everyone. I hope you are all well.

I have been reading/lurking for a few weeks now but just not had the will to post anything. Things are starting to settle down and I am feeling more human now. Sorry not to name check.

Have had a horrible 9 weeks since giving birth and I hope our bad luck is over now and we can start being a proper family.

The girls are98 weeks old on Saturday and are lovely, I adore them. We have had our fair share of drama and I am well know at the hospital.
The night we brought them home, one of the girls choked on Infacol (which the neo natal nurses put her on), we had to call an ambulance. The outcome was that being prem, the muscle near her stomach was not strong enough to cope with the stringy Infacol, she brought it up and it got stuck. It was scary but the ambulance was here within 5 minutes. Thank God I had a some idea of what to do with my basic pediatric first aid training. My other daughter failed her hearing test in one ear so we had to take her back to the hospital for a 2 hour hearing test. All clear and normal now but I had to worry about it for 3 weeks before the second test. They automatically do hearing tests on prem babies. I was in town having the girls passport photos taken and one of the babies turned bright red and looked like she could breath. My blood ran cold while I lifted her out the pushchair and blew into her face trying to encourage her to take a breath. She did eventually but I got the fright of my life. I took her to A&E and they admitted her for 2 days to monitor her, she was 5 weeks old at the time. They thought she may have had some sort of fit but the tests they did came back clear. All ok since, thankfully. I haven't escaped the bad luck either. I have had 3 sets of antibiotics since my c section because of infection, one side of the cut has never healed (called granulation, apparently) and is STILL, 8 weeks later, oozing and open! No smell though. I have had countless doctors appointments about it. It then tunneled into a tennis ball sized abscess on my stomach that I had to have cut and squeezed! I have visited A&E twice for my gall stone attacks and had morphine drips. 2 weeks ago I had my gall bladder out.

I have had a few meltdowns with the stress and worry. I stopped breast feeding because of all the medication I am taking. This is not how I pictured my first experiences of motherhood to be. I am hoping for things to improve from here, surely they can only get better?!

Sorry about epic post.

9 weeks old, not 98 weeks!

oh my god garden, that sounds absolutely horrendous. what a total nightmare for you!!! so glad to hear that the girls are ok now, sounds so very scary.

hope that you feel better soon too!!! have you get family and or friends helping out?

i think you're right - things can only get better (as the famous one hit wonder d:ream told us)