IVF/ICSI June/July

[CakePigeon30]

Hi, couldn't see a thread for June yet so thought I would start one.

I'm on long protocol so actually starting down regulation on 28th May, egg collection not scheduled in until 8th July.

I am on NHS and this will be my first round. Was referred less than a year ago now and have managed to loose 2 and a half stone to get my BMI down.

Anyone else due to start around June?

@Snowdrop131 I believe the reasoning is because I’m having a general … £550 more .. but they won’t even attempt it under sedation

@Rebekah77 I had to have an anaesthetist but he just knocked me out with sedation, it was weird because i felt the ping of the needle but I dont remember them moving me about or getting extra people in to manipulate me - apparently I was difficult! 😂 Story of my life that!

@Snowdrop131 oh my god I'm the same, I never get up for a wee but i have been since transfer, also a few cramps here and there but no bleeding although i think thats a non starter die to all the hormones I'm on
Everything crossed for you!

@FlutteryButtery2 Oh bless you. Your mind really does play tricks on you doesn't it? Just when you think you got this and everything is going okay, it crops up like 'thought about this??' and then you're back to being stressed and anxious! My little devil on my shoulder definitely shouts louder than my angel during the TWW.
For what it is worth, on my first transfer (the one that worked but I had a MMC on) I had crazy dreams during the tww, and was peeing a lot more, and only the odd cramp here and there... 😬I have high hopes for the both of yous 🤗

So sorry you've felt so lonely throughout the wait - has your other half been away since transfer? I'm glad he's back tomorrow for the test though. Classic man - shows up for the finale 😂And it won't matter about how much you've eaten during the TWW cuz you'll be pregnant!!! You better cancel those PT sessions too 😉

@Rebekah77 Blimey, I really didn't know how strict they were on the weight thing. I can't believe they weigh you at every appointment. Even though everyone knows you gain bloat and weight during stims (apart from @FlutteryButtery2 😂). Seems very unfair. Especially when you're half way there. Is it due the risk of the sedation / GA if you're over their threshold weight? Is that the rationale? Remind me - are your bloods to get started eg HIV, STI's, TSH etc? Or are they other bloods?

@Ecas88 No PIO are the worst haha! It's the lump under your skin that they leave behind that's horrible. My clinic told me to massage where you injected after, to disperse the lump of oil, and it makes it less painful. Apparently.... And to be honest, I'd do a million injections, pessaries, tablets, moon dances.... you name it right until labour if it meant we were pregnant.

@Snowdrop131 Oh so exciting for tonight! How are you feeling about it - which side of the fence are you on? The good thing is, you will sleep tonight which you never do when it's the morning as you're anxious all night, well I am - I've tested at 4am before haha!

@GCS34 It’s the virology bloods that expire every 13 weeks .. the hiv and liver disease ones it’s so annoying lol 😂 how many times will we have to pay lol 😂

yup that’s the thought due it being a full surgical setting

it’s incredibly frustrating
they said they will cancel on collection day of over by 1lb
I can’t even get as far as stims 🤣🤣🤣🤣

vay frustrating but hopefully a provera lead in will work this time and can get round one over !!

@Rebekah77 Ah okay that makes more sense about the surgery thing. I forget it's like full on surgery for collection - I guess that's the win for having to do another round, I get another party with the sedation drugs 😂They're literally the best. My consultant told me they're the ones that Michael Jackson got addicted too and I can see why! 😆

It's mad they expire after 13 weeks. I only had HIV and STi's and they're valid a year. So much discretion between each clinic.

Has it been your weight that has stopped you getting to stims previously or has it been something else? Do you have PCOS? I have it, but I have Lean PCOS, but I know that many pcos ladies struggle. Are you on Metformin (presuming you do have PCOS here - tell me if I am wrong?)

When do you stop provera? The 20th?

@GCS34 I’ve come off it now as they’ve got no surgery space . And it’ll make loosing any weight harder . So back to drawing board on the 4th

it’s a regulatory thing 12 weeks is the limit it’s so bloody annoying , but I understand there has to be regulatory body ! so stupid tho and expensive ! Virology redone for two of us is £800 .. so it has to be done by mid august .. not paying a third time

been stopped for a variety of reasons mainly pain levels on the meds to induce a bleed
one I bled on
one I didn’t bleed
one I had to stop as was in agony
then was 1lb over

the provera is agony but not worse than my usual endo pain so hopefully it will work and they’ll have a surgery date

lol I have to laugh honestly I’ve had my meds since October 🤣🤣🤣

Had my downregulation scan this morning and start stims tomorrow. Here we go again. Fingers, toes and everything else crossed for a decent amount of follicles this time. (And no ovulating before the try and collect the measly 3 I had!)

@Rebekah77 Have they just told you that you have to cancel then as they have no space? Is that what you mean? So when will you be starting now then? That's so frustrating as you're literally on the prep drugs now! I can't believe how some clinics are. It's mental. Are they mad busy? I suppose as you can only have EC on weds thurs or friday (did you say that previously?) it limits it, but still. It's so bad when you've just paid. So will you be going in August now then instead? Why did they start you on Provera if they had no space? Surely they should have known that before you started?!

So sorry you've had such pain with it. It's not fair that you're being messed about so much I really feel for you. If you have cancelled, then as you said earlier, you don't feel healthy, so maybe take the next few weeks to work on that so you feel your physical best for next month.

It's not easy, whatever end of the spectrum you are. I might not have weight issues and I'm very lean, but when it comes to transfers, that's where I have my issues as I have a really thin lining, so I can never get it to thicken and with no natural periods, a Natural FET isn't an option. So there is always something for everyone it seems, or we're just mad unlucky 😅

We all seem to have our funny little quirks lol

@GCS34 yeah they only do 3 a week .. .. so they told me they couldn’t hold it as was sick last week so couldn’t go for weigh argh

well I’m hoping stims in July otherwise my bloods will expire .. if I can start provera again 4 July we should be ok .. as long as I bleed and they have space 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

ah well it’s my birthday next week so least I can have a big drink 🤣🤣🤣

@Rebekah77 that sounds crazy what you have go thrgh jumping thrgh hoops already in stressful time. A 1lb over is rli extreme nhs even let me have my treatment and I was slightly over the weight I think they adjusted my height reading slightly. Lol

@GCS34 I dunno how I feel the fact iv none in the freezer is as if no back up but there really nothing I can do about it at min. I am quite a chilled out person so I don't stress too much you can overthink everything but end day we're on this journey and I believe it will happen some day. Ive never had a positive test in 5 years trying but always have hope maybe tis time 🤞

@GCS34 no, hes usually away mon-weds/thurs
His nature of work usually means he’s away in the week, but this one was a bit unforeseen as he wasn’t meant to be away until later in the year. But that’s life

@Snowdrop131 I feel exactly the same - never managed to fall pregnant in the 8/9 years we’ve been trying so my brain says why is this any different, plus with nothing in the freezer I also am worried about having to do another cycle and when we’ll do that,

We got engaged just before our EC so I guess if it’s negative at least I’ll have something to occupy my brain until next time

@FlutteryButtery2 god that's really bad timing! So pleased he's back tonight though. Having company is such a huge thing. I had a really bad day yesterday, got in my own head about everything, and was so anxious, and talking to him just made me rationalise it, so I can totally sympathise with a pretty rotten 10 days for you! Least he's back tonight 💛

I think it is natural to think the worst, self preservation technique I think. It's easier to be negative than it is to be positive about it I think!

Ohhhhhhhhhh super exciting you're newly engaged - congratulations! When do you think you'll get married?

@Snowdrop131 what time are you going to test? Please do let us all know won't you? I'm so excited for you to test!!! Have you had any symptoms today or not?

@Rebekah77 I think I'm confused - your last message said you had come off the drugs as you couldn't be fitted in for EC in July, then mentioned August, so are you no longer starting? Are you off provera now, then going to start on the 4th July again?

@GCS34 Lol think I’m confused too at this point lol

yeah I’ll go weigh and pick up provera 4 July , then they’ll look at surgery dates / scheduling

they cancelled 3rd July but does not mean they won’t have a date end of July. Just as long as it’s before mid august when my virology bits expire

yeah off everything for now

@Rebekah77 so sorry you’ve had to stop again!

@GCS34 Thank you! Was a massive shock as we’ve been together a long time and just assumed it would never happen 😂

Well that all depends on whether the tests are positive or not, I’ve made it absolutely clear that I do not want to get married pregnant so everything is riding on tomorrow and Sunday 😬

If we are then I am looking at summer next year, if not am not really sure as it will depend on how soon we try again

@FlutteryButtery2 thank you lovely

least a boozy weekend can be had , silver linings for me !

keeping fingers and t crossed for you lovely ☺️ doing a test is the most triggering thing , all the positive vibe for you

@Rebekah77 oh how frustrating that you've had to stop again!! Did they call today to update you to tell you? Surely they shouldn't have started you if they had no availability confirmed for you. Logic would see that you'd have a date, and work backwards. My clinic don't set a EC date, just a date to start as everyone is different - some may only need 10 days of stims, others 14, so it's so fluid you can't really say. But I guess with the GA you kinda have to.

Everything crossed for the 4th July!! And yes you can have a drink this weekend I guess - every cloud. Although I have really gone off alcohol since starting all the prep for IVF! I think int he last year I've had about 10 glasses of wine in total, and i'm not sure I even enjoyed them 😂

@FlutteryButtery2 Awwww that's lovely!! Surprises are always the best. So exciting and so much joy to come over the coming few years. I say few years as you'll be pregnant, so you'll be getting married next summer 😉Have you had any symptoms today or pretty chill?

@GCS34 Nah they book the surgery date about 7 weeks in advance … then work backwards just to stress me out lol they do such limited generals and only at another clinic 100 miles away .. so logistics and all !!

already complained about the delays and having to pay again ..one of the most expensive clinics and I’ve paid so much extra plus wasted drugs from the first attempt !

if they can’t do it by august 15th I’ll have to cut my losses and go elsewhere

😂 arghh

yah I barely drink but got my birthday and my niece .. no reason not to now lol 😂 probably very unwise on low calories but got live sometimes I’ll be wasted lol but happy !

@FlutteryButtery2 congratulations! I had so much fun wedding planning!!!!

Act can't believe it!! Iv had no symptoms at all no spotting just the going toilet middle of night whether that even is a symptom!!
@FlutteryButtery2 rli hope you get good news 2moro aswell and congratulations on engagement exciting times planning ahead hopefully with a wee bump x

@FlutteryButtery2

@Snowdrop131 that's so amazing!! Congratulations! 💕💕

@FlutteryButtery2 sending lots of luck for your test tomorrow too. Xx

@Snowdrop131 Congratulations!!!!

@Snowdrop131 omg congratulations!!
Stupid question - how do you feel?

@Snowdrop131 congratulations!!! So happy for you!!!

Congratulations this is amazing so nice to have a positive on the thread, gives us all hope!