IVF/ICSI June/July

[CakePigeon30]

Hi, couldn't see a thread for June yet so thought I would start one.

I'm on long protocol so actually starting down regulation on 28th May, egg collection not scheduled in until 8th July.

I am on NHS and this will be my first round. Was referred less than a year ago now and have managed to loose 2 and a half stone to get my BMI down.

Anyone else due to start around June?

@FlutteryButtery2 I don't feel pregnant at all which is un nerving but then it's still early really so iv another test just to do 2moro testing day then see what the clinic say think it's just wait another 3 weeks until a scan! So I'll not believe its real until then fingers crossed all being well

@Snowdrop131 yes yes YESSSSSSS!!! This is awesome news. And that test will be super dark tomorrow in FMU. So pleased for you. Well done embryo. The little embryo that could and did!

I got negative urine result, got to carry on with meds and blood test Sunday but I think that’s it for this one.

Oh @FlutteryButtery2 im so so sorry. 😔 I really had so much faith. It’s such a cruel game. See how you go Sunday but please don’t blame yourself. You’re a warrior. Xx

@FlutteryButtery2 I'm sorry 😔 xx

Hi this will be my 2nd cycle of ICSI. I start Northisterone on Monday coming and then potential egg collection mid July if it all goes well.
I’m terrified it won’t work again but we have to try.
I have extremely low AMH (0.9) so the likelihood of it working is slim. We done a cycle last month and we got 2 eggs, only 1 was mature and it fertilised. Was going well on Day 3 but by Day 5 it was very slow so they cancelled transfer and kept it on culture for another day but by Day 6 it had degenerated.
This cycle is going to be the same protocol as last cycle as I did actually respond which they didn’t think I would so just have to hope, pray, cross everything that we can get to transfer stage this time.

Ah no @FlutteryButtery2 sorry to hear its awful just like a lottery, it all seems so unfair. Take care urself and keep going x

@FlutteryButtery2 sorry to hear the test didn't go well. I've read a lot of stories where it was negative on pee tests (even the night before blood test) but positive on bloods, there is still a little bit of hope and that's why the ask you to continue the meds.x

@Snowdrop131 congratulations, that's great news, one step closer to that little baby!!

@GCS34 I've been massaging after as well and walking around. Tbf I've been doing alternate sides and by the time I come back to the same side it doesn't hurt too badly anymore...I feel like by the 10th injection I might not be able to walk though 😕

@Ecas88 haha oh the perils of ivf. Honestly all dignity and normality is out, being weird, rubbing your bum, shoving stuff up your bum and injecting your bum in.

I always think it’ll make us more resilient parents 🥰

@GCS34 yes, no dignity 😂 how are things going with you? What day stims are you now?

@Ecas88 I'm not yet, I've had my consultation and just got my nurse call next week to talk through the protocol and order my drugs, then start 1st July is the plan. Weirdly looking forward to starting to inject again - least it feels like you're making progress at that point! I always think the stims bit is the easy bit, after that it gets stressful, worrying, anxious and difficult. In my opinion anyway! Are you 3dp5dt? Do you have any frosties and was this a fresh?

Sorry @FlutteryButtery2 hope you are ok

Thank you everyone
I’m utterly devastated - more so than I thought I’d be if I’m honest
My partner hasn’t really shown any emotion, he’s been lovely checking in with me but I feel like he’s sad for me rather than for himself - is that a “man thing” - How have others partners/husbands reacted? I suppose it’s different for them than for us as we’ve had to do all the meds and procedures etc 🤷🏻‍♀️
We have another round paid for so alls not lost but I’m not sure I want to keep going through this

Blood testing on Sunday - clinic called and said there’s still a chance the urine test was wrong but I really doubt that as the implanted embryo was compacted and the others stopped developing on day 6 so no reason to believe that’s not what happened with the implanted one

It is so disheartening that we don’t even have anything in the freezer but I guess that’s just how it goes
Also I’m a reader and to make things make sense to me I like to research, there is very little I can find so that’s frustrating me

But I’ve done a few jobs outside today which has made me feel better, things have certainly stacked up due to being rough after EC and then being precious after transfer and just doing basics with the animals

Hope everyone else has had a good day!

So sorry @FlutteryButtery2 . Nothing to say that will make you feel better. It’s just s**t!!!!!

Awh @FlutteryButtery2 it is awful and with all the hormones you've been taking I think makes it worse. My husband was the same with me last time he said I seen how upset you were and i was thinking where u not upset too?? But he is upset but I think they keep it to themselves more.
U never know could be a late bloomer and bloods on Sunday show otherwise. Keep head up x

@FlutteryButtery2 so sorry for you, nothingi can sayto help im afraid. Its just crap. My husband was pretty quiet last time when it failed so early on but was very upset. I think he was trying to protect me. This time we've both been in tears several times already and there is still quite a way to go.

We actually had a decent talk about our options going forward, he did eventually break down which I was a bit relieved about

Still negative on the urine this morning, I feel like carrying on with meds til Sunday is a bit of a waste and unnecessary but do understand why.

@FlutteryButtery2 I think it's a man thing. They see a problem and want to fix it, and are very process driven, where as we're much more emotionally driven, so for them I think when something doesn't work, they just think about how they can make it right and fix it. At least, that's how my husband explains it to me, and how my parents relationship is, and most men I think! It's good he managed to comfort you with emotional support last night though.

It's good you have another cycle in your Access Fertility package. I have the multi cycle too, it does help and gives you that reassurance. It is just meds that you have to pay for - that the same for you? But finances aside, it's the emotional toll as you say, and it is really all consuming. I have felt like the last year going through a full cycle, and transferring all the frosties, I've just been existing. I haven't lived. And everything I have done, I don't really think my heart was 100% in it. Taking a break does help mentally. I've certainly found my quality of life has improved since stepping back this month from it all.

Would you consider maybe the autumn, or do you think you'd wait a bit longer / shorter?

Sending love - I know how rough it is and I can only offer an ear and thoughts xx

@GCS34 were both quite similar in how we approach problems, this just hit me hard. I think it’s because we waited and waited as there were other things going on and now we’re realising that we shouldn’t have done that and the real realisation has sunken in
I know it sounds doom and gloom but it’s totally realistic that we may never be successful

Yes that’s right just the meds, still a lot of money but we saved enough up for two rounds everything in sort of thing
was wondering whether the refund package may have been a better idea but we will see how the next round pans out

I don’t know, we were talking about it last night. Ultimately we have to wait for Sunday, if that’s negative then the clinic will have a meeting with us to discuss next steps.
I think Ive worked out earliest next round would be very end of august/September but I suppose it depends on what treatment options are open for us as I assume they won’t repeat the exact same treatment.
I’m worried that they had a hard time collecting eggs so they’ll refuse to do it again and the transfer wasn’t straightforward either - she said I had a kink in my uterus so she had to change the catheter - god knows what that means

OH suggested that we maybe fast plan the wedding, get married (at least the ceremony) and then try again. Have the reception next year in the summer where hopefully we’ll have a baby to welcome too
But I don’t really know what I want to do at the moment

I’m ok today, talking together really helped me regulate myself

On a different note (sort of) Has anyone used donor eggs? Or even a surrogate?

@FlutteryButtery2 I’m sorry to hear it didn’t work this round and hope you are taking time to rest and grieve. Sending love ❤️ it’s annoying how this process puts everything on hold. I feel like I can’t make any plans at all as I don’t know if I’ll be pregnant or doing ivf and for how long.

@FlutteryButtery2 I haven't a clue about donor eggs or surrogate, sorry - is this something you are going to look in to?

@GwenH82 have you started stims now? How are you finding them?

@CakePigeon30 yes, started on Thursday. I'm on the same as last time, ovaleap 375, really easy to do with the pen thing and it has very fine needles. Next scan on Wednesday.

@FlutteryButtery2 doesnt sound doom and gloom. It’s perfectly normal to look back and think ‘we should have done this’ but that’s hindsight and if we knew it at the time, none of us would probably be here. You can't put everything on hold for it - I have this last year and it’s not been fun! Which is why now we’re not and just doing everything in conjunction - enter, moving house, planning a holiday and being promoted at work all while doing another round of IVF 🫣 I don’t advise fyi - think I might cry 😂😂 but you get my point.

end of aug / sept is a nice amount of time as you can do loads between now and then to try optimise the round. And if everything isn’t as we want tomorrow, they will make a new plan and new protocol to get the best out of you. They learn a lot from round one. My dr told me that a few weeks back. Unfortunately the first round is a learning one as they don’t know anything till your eggs are in the lab. So the second is almost always more successful as they know what they’re working with.

I don’t think they’d reject you and not let you do another because of a challenging uterus. My friends is backwards and has a bend in her cervix too so they had to use the flexi catheter as well, she’s 24 weeks currently. Please don’t be too hard on yourself. You’re not broken it’s just a blip.

Hope that’s didn’t sound patronising Just don’t want you blaming yourself as it’s not you it’s just dumb luck sometimes. Xxx

@GCS34 oh it’s totally a game of numbers and luck. Nothing else - even natural conception

@CakePigeon30 We have discussed it, but again it depends on why this round failed, if it’s an egg issue then donor eggs seem to be the best way of getting around that quickly

Hey guys,
I have my embryo transfer tomorrow.
First go on IVF after two failed IUIs.
Got 5 eggs and all 5 fertilised so I'm trying to stay confident but love to hear how others are going with it all?