This is an odd one, Palins 5th child is apparantly her 17 year old daughters?

[jojosmaman]

... according to some reports in the US?

here

ah we haev done that on the other thread

I got confued then and thought that you were talking about Michael palin. He of Monty Python fame.

We were talking about this yesterday, jjm - here.

The circumstantial evidence is very convincing...

Damn and blast, I thought I was being an intellectual by posting something on "in the news" but alas its been done! I'll skip off back to Heat...

... so is it bollox then? (Havent got time to read the thread as in work)

i thiought you meant michel palin too

no idea who you do mean tho

No, not bollox, it all adds up very neatly...

The photos of SP in previous pregnanciy compared with this one, plus photos of her daughter earlier this year, are pretty convincing too.

How sad if its true, what would the harm have been to say your daughter had given birth at 17 but you were going to support her and ensure the best care is given to your first grandchild?? Surely she would have been respected more for this, esp from the women voters? Instead she now appears untrustworthy, nice choice McCain!

certainly sounds very suspect.

But all the available pictures show a concealed abdomen. She might not be pregnant, but there is no good pictoral evidence to show that she isn't.

And as for that pic of the daughter, well, that could just be tummy.

McStupid and co did NOT vet her properly before choosing her as VP. Now the shit is going to hit the fan.

Frankly, I don't see how it is possible. She had the baby in hospital surely? Don't you think the doctors would have noticed?

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this is a telling picture if it is real!

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What vile speculation. If it is true, it has happened plenty of times before and will again. It's no one's business but the family concerned.

Lying to protect her 17 year old hardly makes her a criminal, it makes her a mother.

I doubt it is true, considering that the child in question has Down Syndrome - I know it is possible for a 17 year old to have a Downs baby, but pretty unlikely, whereas a 45 year old is quite likely to have one.

georgimama - it's not that unlikely

Figures (approx)

Maternal age

The likelihood of having a baby with Down's syndrome increases with the mother's age:

20 years - 1 in 1,500
25 years - 1 in 1,300
30 years - 1 in 900
35 years - 1 in 350
40 years - 1 in 100
45 years - 1 in 30

so 1 in 1,500 not "that" a remote possibility.

acutally more down syndrome babies are born to younger women because they have more babies than an older age group.

I think it is probably a lot less than 1 in 1,500 for a 17 year old, though, as your figures show the risk increases massively which increasing maternal age. 1 in 1,500 is still a hell of a lot less than 1 in 30.

I agree with Dittany.

erm in teh link OP posted it actually says the following:

"she also awoke yesterday to utterly unfounded internet rumours that her fifth child, born in April with Down?s syndrome, was actually her 17-year-old daughter?s."

so how does teh above mean that it is true?

Just nasty, nasty speculation.

dittany - have you read the other thread about this woman's ideas about the "world"?? Damn right I want it to be true - just to descredit her and lower the chances of them winning!

excerpt from news article:

''....the photo was taken was taken, and published, by the Anchorage Daily News in 2006. Baby Trig, a child with Down's Syndrome, was born on April 18, 2008. That's a long time for a teen girl to be carrying a "bump" which looks nothing more than the curve of a tight sweater.''

Nasty speculation and smears.