Portsmouth Protests

[NoisyBrickDog]

Why are they all shouting "Shame on You" towards the police - when it was the RNLI who brought them all to shore?

Surly they should be shouting this towards the lifeboat crews....?

At the end of March 2026, there were 87,450 asylum cases waiting in the First-tier Tribunal for an appeal outcome.
And the latest reporting today says the number of asylum appeals waiting to be heard had reached 90,341 by the end of June 2026.

The average wait for an asylum appeal is now roughly 67–72 weeks, depending on the measure/source.

Ok it is possible to do capped, vetted and safe but it’d require a vote away from some international laws, or everyone could be returned to France if Bardella gets in and Le Pen agrees.

Better dust off your balaclava then.

The Foreign Office needs to put pressure on France to arrest, charge, convict, and jail the human traffickers in France. The French, like us, have international treaty obligations to combat human trafficking. It's the traffickers who are selling more places than the boat can safely hold.

I want immigration controlled, if only to keep out the likes of Varg Vikernes. But I also think that calling open borders "carnage" is hyperbolic and completely tone-deaf when you consider how many have died trying to get here.

Not at all. It seems to be you who wants a fight. You’re not interested in any debate or discussion or other opinions, you just keep bringing everything back to the same thing as if nothing else can be spoken about in relation.

I’m not sure the people who are driving it are in France. The people selling crossings / on the beach will be low down the pecking order and easily replaceable.

But it’s absolutely relevant to have further discussion about the whys and how’s. We’ve already said it’s awful what happened so is that it, no further discussion allowed?

It would keep me safe on the streets at least.

If I were going to be charitable I would hope there is a huge multi-country, multi-agency investigation going on right now that’s going to end the people trafficking and a lot of people are going to get locked up for a very long time. That might be why key figures are just keeping quiet on it.

Absolutely nothing inappropriate about using the word carnage describing a world with open borders.

Google exists. Try using it, if you sincerely don't know what a straw man fallacy is. But I think you know full-well what it means.

Your faux "one of the people" act is nothing new, straight out of the Farage playbook, and I see straight through it.

It's also patronising to the working class you pretend to speak for to pretend that Joe Public doesn't know what long words mean. Working class people have a long history of valuing education and culture, as attested to by the Miners' Welfare Halls found in pit villages all over the North that ran and still run evening classes, reading groups, choirs, and dramatic societies.

Who said they disagreed with a safe route? I certainly didn’t. Have a safe route in France but only those with a genuine case can come here

This is factually incorrect. If you refuse help after requesting a rescue at sea, the rescuer does not have to wait around and can return to port if you are refusing assistance.

Under maritime law, including the <a class="break-all" href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&rct=j&url=sos-humanity.org/en/our-mission/change/the-legal-basis-of-maritime-rescue/&ved=2ahUKEwiB_8OJ1-SWAxXAU0EAHQiMCesQy_kOegoIAggACAIICxAD&opi=89978449&cd&psig=AOvVaw0GYvO9cnIDQhliwk6jiwTg&ust=1789152631218000" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">SOLAS Convention and <a class="break-all" href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&rct=j&url=www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2021/07/08/the-rnli-should-not-be-accepting-government-assurance-s-on-asylum-seekers-it-should-be-standing-up-for-the-rights-of-all-who-save-life-at-sea/&ved=2ahUKEwiB_8OJ1-SWAxXAU0EAHQiMCesQy_kOegoIAggACAIICxAE&opi=89978449&cd&psig=AOvVaw0GYvO9cnIDQhliwk6jiwTg&ust=1789152631218000" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">UNCLOS Article 98, the absolute duty is to render assistance to those in distress.

Right to Refuse: A competent master or person in apparent control of a vessel or situation at sea has general autonomy to decline assistance, provided doing so does not immediately endanger human life or create a public safety hazard managed by coastguard authorities.

If the rescue vessel arrives, confirms you are safe or definitively refusing aid while under no immediate threat of loss of life, they are not legally required to loiter or stand by. They can and will return to port.

Are you seriously suggesting that people would die en masse if we stopped applying immigration controls?

Who do you think would be causing the deaths?

I’m afraid it can’t be stopped as the demand is too high and the laws are there for movement of people.

They’d stop if the laws were changed in the same way traffickers in Albania pretty much gave up selling routes to the UK after the law changed.

provided doing so does not immediately endanger human life

For one of those boats to go from "boat-shaped" to "collapsed with crushed people in the middle" is a matter of seconds. That's the immediate life endangerment.

You also don't have a competent master on these things.

Why wouldnt they?

Oh for god sake. I’m well known on here for supporting Kemi with her campaign to replace Andy. I couldn’t give a shit about any of the R parties or their dodgy dealings and the fact all your tribe can do is accuse people with political differences of supporting Reform or being a Nazi shows your severe lack of imagination.

Tell me about your straw man phrase. I assume it’s nothing to do with scarecrows/harvest festival.

Behave!

Some people want a world with open borders and if that were to happen then there wouldn’t be any need for risky sea crossings because everyone would be free to go anywhere, so your point is illogical and doesn’t even make sense!

I watched something earlier where Germany had done a deal with Syria to take their citizens back. Criminals first. We’re just doing absolutely nothing to solve this.

If the asylum seekers are seeking asylum from persecution then why do they need to travel from
France to the UK to do this. Why don't they just stay in France?

I thought France was a relatively safe country or do you believe otherwise?

Its almost as if there is an ulterior motive to come to the UK other than seeking asylum.

We have a ‘kind government’ apparently 🤦🏼‍♀️

I'm annoyed that MNHQ deleted the post I was replying to there.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant and it was informative to see how dishonest posters twist a single line into a screed of nonsense.

What are you spouting on about?

Actually that policy is not working out too well in Germany in practice. Convicted Syrian criminals in Germany are simply refusing to go back to Germany and are supported in this by various German refugee groups.

They are just refusing to obey the law.