Portsmouth Protests

[NoisyBrickDog]

Why are they all shouting "Shame on You" towards the police - when it was the RNLI who brought them all to shore?

Surly they should be shouting this towards the lifeboat crews....?

And there we have it. They want open borders.

One post = they?

No, there you don't have it.

It isn't a Gotcha, your logic is flawed.

You might as well say 'and there we have it - you want the carnage of women crushed and people drowned' - which I assume that in fact you don't.

It should be possible to maintain our borders without carnage in any direction.

To have a system where refugees and asylum seekers are verified, identified and appropriately supported, and would-be illegal migrants are identified and deported.

This is the job of the Gvt, as it has been through the last Tory regime and now our current Gvt.

This is what we should all be pressing for.

You want to give away the safety of our most vulnerable to protect unvetted males from fuck knows where. You want an open border if the alternative is people coming to harm in another country. You are a Globalist at heart and think we are all in it together and this land is stolen land and whatever the other nonsense rhetoric the wealthy liberals espouse.

Our sovereignty is not yours to give away, in the same way that women’s safe spaces are not yours to hand to men.

And now we have the national shame of watching 40 masked 'protesters' mobbing the Marriott hotel in Portsmouth believing that the Pakistani Youth Cricket team are illegal migrants.

How would those young cricketers have felt? We have invited them here as part of a cricket match. The 'protesters' got inside the hotel, looking for their rooms. The hotel were obliged to give the 'protesters' proof that their guests were a cricket team. Why should the team have to prove their credentials to vigilante thugs? How humiliating.

Utterly shameful.

And oh, no , never racist....except see BROWN people in a hotel and out come the mob.

Where are you hanging out to see these videos?

You have no evidence for any of this. You are making it up to justify the behaviour of masked protestors.

Wanting people safely brought into the system - where people are frequently sent back - 40,000 enforced last year, and 8% increase on the Tories' record - to be assessed and verified.

(oh, and that is in addition to those who choose to leave the country - another 640,000)

Wanting the Gvt to safely manage the system is not wanting vulnerable people attacked etc.

Or I could just be calling Makkka out on her hyperbole of using the word "carnage" inappropriately.

I haven’t seen or read anything to suggest that emergency services workers were injured in Portsmouth?

You are lying. You are spewing froth-mouthed hyperbole. You are inferring a cardboard cutout caracature of an entire political stance from one line.

You have set up a straw man "woke liberal" and claimed it to be me.

in the same way that women’s safe spaces are not yours to hand to men.

Advanced search me and see just what I think about men in women's spaces. As I said, you are straw-manning.

I’m commenting on the Sunday protests in Portsmouth, not anything that has happened since then😳

All this, and the French stopping the boat launches. People are drowning and being crushed to death.

https://news.sky.com/story/officers-injured-and-vehicles-damaged-during-anti-migrant-protest-in-portsmouth-as-police-hunt-suspects-13582779

Straw-manning is a well understood term.

You can't defend lying about me, so you attack my choice of words.

This is a photo of you.

Stopping the boats by offering refugees a safe routes to claim asylum is nothing like 'open borders'

You believe it’s a well known phrase because of your social media activity. Those of us who exist in the real world and talk to average, ordinary people have not a clue what you’re on about.

We have enough. No more.

Yes that was awful

they should be ashamed of themselves

We have enough what?

Be specific.

You could do this but unless you meet demand you’ll get both these routes and irregular ones ie to the coast.

We have enough people in the country right now who are going through the asylum process. We do not need any more.

You’re pretty much describing the Australian system.

It does not mean open borders, which was the discussion.