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Anyone seen what's happening in Birmingham now

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namechangedforthisposttt · 05/08/2024 21:59

People out slashing sky news tyres, surrounded the reporting female journalist, a man was battered outside a pub by a mob
wtf is going on !

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Kebarbra · 05/08/2024 23:55

GoodieMcTwoshoes · 05/08/2024 23:52

Lots of people are poor and still not criminals.

Absolutely, but poverty is often a factor in engaging with these types of views for a plethora of reasons. Your post has a whiff of its not all men; of course it's not all poor people, no one is saying it is but that doesn't stop it being a driver.

RogueFemale · 05/08/2024 23:55

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You do realise that 94% is 94% more millions of people than 6%?

And there are millions of white British intolerant of gays, misogynistic, etc. Men globally have a lot in common, regardless of skin colour.

Isthatascratchonmygrandmother · 05/08/2024 23:56

quockerwodger · 05/08/2024 23:49

I saw a video on sky YouTube.

https://youtube.com/shorts/ervKcVl69J0?si=eTHeItR9opg-lW2A

I can't imagine how terrifying that must have been for that reporter. I hope she safe and at home

This is the mildest incident I've seen out of Birmingham tonight.

Aside from the several gang attacks. A video has been posted to the so called 'EDL' by the self-proclaimed 'MDL' of a man brandishing an assault rifle which he loads on camera and sends out a direct threat. But it probably looks like something it isn't. Starmer will say it's photoshop.

YogaForDummies · 05/08/2024 23:57

RogueFemale · 05/08/2024 23:55

You do realise that 94% is 94% more millions of people than 6%?

And there are millions of white British intolerant of gays, misogynistic, etc. Men globally have a lot in common, regardless of skin colour.

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What's your point?

Devonbabs · 05/08/2024 23:57

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mommatoone · 05/08/2024 23:57

Radarkeigh · 05/08/2024 23:09

He wasnt exactly white but he got away with it.

Got away with what? Have we missed something?

Kebarbra · 05/08/2024 23:58

Devonbabs · 05/08/2024 23:53

They don’t want to inflame the Muslim community so are talking to community leaders. Bit like they just had a quiet word with the leaders of the EDL community, oh sorry they’re thugs.

surely people can see the issues people have been trying to talk about one rule for one group, another for another group. Unless the police deal with this sharply, it’s going to get worse, much worse.

Can people really no see where this is headed

I agree, if they were trying to diffuse things they'd be keen to demonstrate there isn't two tier policing. Hate to say it but they're just proving TR and his ilk right (on this one aspect, I find the rest of their views a bag of shite) and these claims that have often been dismissed are actually being shown to be true. There are enough police to have had a decent presence, this down playing of it being small scuffles easily contained is outrageous. They should treat all violent men taking part in these the same and they're simply not.

RogueFemale · 05/08/2024 23:59

YogaForDummies · 05/08/2024 23:57

What's your point?

That Islam is not the big bad wolf. And it's not going to take over the UK by 2050 as you seem to fear.

Devonbabs · 05/08/2024 23:59

Isthatascratchonmygrandmother · 05/08/2024 23:56

This is the mildest incident I've seen out of Birmingham tonight.

Aside from the several gang attacks. A video has been posted to the so called 'EDL' by the self-proclaimed 'MDL' of a man brandishing an assault rifle which he loads on camera and sends out a direct threat. But it probably looks like something it isn't. Starmer will say it's photoshop.

Why are people so frightened of saying what’s happening? Why are they frightened to say the British way of life is threatened by multiculturalism?

mommatoone · 06/08/2024 00:00

Isthatascratchonmygrandmother · 05/08/2024 23:56

This is the mildest incident I've seen out of Birmingham tonight.

Aside from the several gang attacks. A video has been posted to the so called 'EDL' by the self-proclaimed 'MDL' of a man brandishing an assault rifle which he loads on camera and sends out a direct threat. But it probably looks like something it isn't. Starmer will say it's photoshop.

I agree. I saw the footage of the pub being surrounded by people flying the Palestinian flag. Then about 10 of these people attacked a guy that came out of the pub. Kicked him in the head and surrounded him like a pack of wolves.

Jezabelle85 · 06/08/2024 00:00

Baital · 05/08/2024 22:02

Racist mobs

Except they were not white men - what’s your take on it now?

biscuitandcake · 06/08/2024 00:00

Kebarbra · 05/08/2024 23:55

Absolutely, but poverty is often a factor in engaging with these types of views for a plethora of reasons. Your post has a whiff of its not all men; of course it's not all poor people, no one is saying it is but that doesn't stop it being a driver.

Some people like to smash things up/destroy things for fun.

If you are a wealthy former banker like Farage you will do it in a different way to if you are a poor working class white man, or a working class Muslim. But the impulse is the same.

That is not the same as people, who want to make things better/fix problems they can see around them. They might have really different ideas of what the problems or solutions are to me. But the impulse is to build/restore/conserve. e.g. I think Brexit is a terrible idea but I know people who voted for Brexit for good, well reasoned reasons.

Its the impulse to destroy just because you can/because you want to see what you can get away with that is the problem. And you can spot who those people are quite easily because they are the people smashing things up for fun

YogaForDummies · 06/08/2024 00:00

RogueFemale · 05/08/2024 23:59

That Islam is not the big bad wolf. And it's not going to take over the UK by 2050 as you seem to fear.

Oh, it absolutely won't be now that there has been a backlash.

gottogo23 · 06/08/2024 00:00

InDsocialworker · 05/08/2024 23:52

That really isn’t an accurate representation of any of the Muslims I know. You talk
about Islam in such a narrow minded way. I have a friend he is Muslim his family are all still in Afghanistan- he tells me regularly how awfully women are treated there and he’s heartbroken, his friends are all in similar situations- these are young Muslim men they are all caring and do not agree with women being treated badly.

40% of UK Muslims would support the introduction of Sharia law. Of course there's 'good Muslims' around as much as there's good and bad in every race and culture. But the immigrants are coming in so thick and fast that they will not/do not need to integrate and will vote in new laws around their belief system and not ours. The estimated population of the UK is now believed to be closer to 100 million rather than the 70 million the government claim. We have already lost control and need to take urgent action.

Inlaw · 06/08/2024 00:01

Devonbabs · 05/08/2024 23:53

They don’t want to inflame the Muslim community so are talking to community leaders. Bit like they just had a quiet word with the leaders of the EDL community, oh sorry they’re thugs.

surely people can see the issues people have been trying to talk about one rule for one group, another for another group. Unless the police deal with this sharply, it’s going to get worse, much worse.

Can people really no see where this is headed

If this is true this has really pissed me off. Unbelievably angry.

These fucking EDL knuckleheads have been causing complete chaos the last week, causing communities up and down the country worry, upsets and even physical harm to innocent people.

And then this happens! They are pretty much proving what they are saying right. Why are they doing this!!!

Honestly I’m so angry I can’t even talk.

GoodieMcTwoshoes · 06/08/2024 00:01

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matildamiracle · 06/08/2024 00:02

Devonbabs · 05/08/2024 23:59

Why are people so frightened of saying what’s happening? Why are they frightened to say the British way of life is threatened by multiculturalism?

British way of life is most threatened by racist cunts.

Wonder why that's hard for some people to understand....

peanutbuttertoasty · 06/08/2024 00:03

The two tier policing has been shockingly apparent since 7/10. Not just on Starmer’s watch, but his policies and allegiances have opened the floodgates to mob rule as these groups are very much emboldened. Much easier to stomp down on the ‘far right’ who they are not scared of.

GoodieMcTwoshoes · 06/08/2024 00:04

Inlaw · 06/08/2024 00:01

If this is true this has really pissed me off. Unbelievably angry.

These fucking EDL knuckleheads have been causing complete chaos the last week, causing communities up and down the country worry, upsets and even physical harm to innocent people.

And then this happens! They are pretty much proving what they are saying right. Why are they doing this!!!

Honestly I’m so angry I can’t even talk.

Most of the people rioting will not be in EDL or officially affiliated to any right wing political group. They're just white working class guys. They have their own opinions and don't need anyone to tell them what to think in order to riot.

RogueFemale · 06/08/2024 00:05

peanutbuttertoasty · 06/08/2024 00:03

The two tier policing has been shockingly apparent since 7/10. Not just on Starmer’s watch, but his policies and allegiances have opened the floodgates to mob rule as these groups are very much emboldened. Much easier to stomp down on the ‘far right’ who they are not scared of.

Starmer has been PM for a month. What do you think was shockingly apparent before the general election?

Inlaw · 06/08/2024 00:06

GoodieMcTwoshoes · 06/08/2024 00:04

Most of the people rioting will not be in EDL or officially affiliated to any right wing political group. They're just white working class guys. They have their own opinions and don't need anyone to tell them what to think in order to riot.

Fair enough. But they are racist knuckleheads either way.

So are the Muslim mob.

I expect them both to be policed equally and have the book thrown at them.

Why the fuck are we tolerating this from either side.

Diyextension · 06/08/2024 00:06

Devonbabs · 05/08/2024 23:19

There’s an awful video on Twitter where the Muslim mob literally descend on one guy trying to defend his pub and kick him to the floor and keep kicking- families are stuck in the pub, cars screeching round mobs of Muslim men with Gaza flags. People dialling 999 for hours, no police. Police are speaking with community leaders apparently.

locals extremely angry about the two tier policing. The hospital I gave birth in is locked down.

Wont be long before we see other Muslim mobs in other cities. The police need to be seen to be acting fairly, treating everyone equally, this will just drive the feeling of unfairness

Two tier keir wont send the riot police in against ethnic minorities………….

anotherside · 06/08/2024 00:06

peanutbuttertoasty · 06/08/2024 00:03

The two tier policing has been shockingly apparent since 7/10. Not just on Starmer’s watch, but his policies and allegiances have opened the floodgates to mob rule as these groups are very much emboldened. Much easier to stomp down on the ‘far right’ who they are not scared of.

How about, as a solution to this supposed two tier policing, the far right stop smashing in peoples windows and setting cars on fire etc. And instead try to influence policy democratically. You know, “British Values” etc etc.

BenchyMcBenchFace · 06/08/2024 00:06

pleasehelpwi3 · 05/08/2024 22:58

As someone said on R4 today 'people of low intelligence, and even lower morals.'
Spot on- but too polite. I'd say utterley thick racist chavs who are too stupid too understand they're being manipulated by Farage, Daily Mail et al.
When I've engaged with such individuals online, on Facebook, none of them have any friends that not only aren't white, but who aren't rough white working class chavs with England flags/tropes about verterans on the streets/Enoch Powell etc etc on their pages. So depressing.
Imagine not having any friends who didn't look like you/come from another part of the world.

I don’t have any friends who don’t look like me, or who come from another part of the world. I’m not a racist though.

BuggedOut · 06/08/2024 00:07

This is extremely worrying. I know the area well - lots of elderly people live in the surrounding estates, they will be petrified.