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Anyone seen what's happening in Birmingham now

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namechangedforthisposttt · 05/08/2024 21:59

People out slashing sky news tyres, surrounded the reporting female journalist, a man was battered outside a pub by a mob
wtf is going on !

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Zet1 · 07/08/2024 10:00

Kebarbra · 07/08/2024 09:57

Has it never been acknowledged? Really?

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Has it changed? No

But now you want us in communities treated poorly by the police to be concerned now that others who have mostly been treated favourably raise issues. Do you not see a problem with this??

Kebarbra · 07/08/2024 10:04

Zet1 · 07/08/2024 10:00

Has it changed? No

But now you want us in communities treated poorly by the police to be concerned now that others who have mostly been treated favourably raise issues. Do you not see a problem with this??

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No I don't, I don't expect anyone else to do anything. I expect people to centre themselves, their families and communities first as most people do; it's up to people that have been treated the worst if they aren't angry about the police admitting they treat a different group of people much more favourably isn't it? Others are allowed their own opinions too- who is asking you to be concerned?

Midknight · 07/08/2024 10:14

Zet1 · 07/08/2024 10:00

Has it changed? No

But now you want us in communities treated poorly by the police to be concerned now that others who have mostly been treated favourably raise issues. Do you not see a problem with this??

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Maybe questions need to be asked of Sadiq Khan who has failed miserably to tackle increasing knife crime and why black youths from London are disproportionately affected by stop and search, however his project as part of his mayoral action plan working with the MET police to establish causes, was delayed for over 3 years! While the force was accused of institutional racism, misogyny and homophobia. Stop and search

Concern over three-year delay to Mayor's stop and search study

The mayor promised in November 2020 that his office would complete a study into the Met's use of stop and search - but the project remains incomplete

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/sadiq-khan-rob-blackie-met-police-london-stop-search-study-casey-review-b1121168.html

peanutbuttertoasty · 07/08/2024 14:31

rumblegrumble · 06/08/2024 22:02

Not sure if this post will stand, but I would like to share my experience - very much with the disclaimer it is only my experience, and not necessarily representative of anyone else's. I would also like to reiterate that I now live in an area where people are very successfully integrated, so I do know it can work!

I'm not sure we should generalise about various groups, especially as I believe there are many fully integrated Muslims (and many non-integrated non-Muslims) so it's not an issue purely with Islam. However, my old area was indeed separated primarily into Muslim and non-Muslim, though there were other congregations too, including of black people. Everyone really stayed amongst 'their own kind'. Specifically with Muslims, I would definitely not agree the cultural distinctions diminished though - when I was younger, I don't remember ever seeing a hijab. Occasionally you'd see a loose headscarf, but never a tight one that completely hid the hair. They came in around the early 2000s. Now, burkhas are commonplace and loose robes and tight headscarves the norm. It's possibly relevant that the area was one of the largest 'exporters' of Isis fighters. I think that allowing these communities to segregate themselves entirely embeds cultural distinctions, and as they have their own areas they have their own shops, doctors, community centres, and even state schools. They need not have any sort of interaction with non-Muslims if they don't want to, and from what I've heard it is actively discouraged - especially for females. I know people will call me bigoted, but I don't think this is a positive thing either for our country, or for these people themselves; it is almost impossible for anyone to escape if they do wish to live a more western lifestyle, and we won't offer assistance as it would be considered racist. We instead leave it up to their 'elders' to run their own mini-societies as they see fit - even if it completely contradicts British values, or laws.

Maybe I'm just being naïve but I genuinely believe that almost everyone is extremely comfortable with the idea of a multi-ethnic society (I might have made up the term, but it seems to make sense!). People from all over who are here because they have something to offer and, even more importantly, choose to be here just because they like the way we do things. This would of course mean people sharing their foods, their music and art etc, but all while fully embracing the country and the country's values.

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Completely agree with this

User8646382 · 07/08/2024 19:22

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/08/2024 16:04

I've not made a referral myself, but have been involved with some in a community capacity and sadly you're quite right - though again I've found it's rarely those in the front line who are driving these choices

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And it’s exactly this that is causing racial tension, though Starmer does not appear to understand it.

stronglatte · 07/08/2024 20:00

Sky News right now: Massive protests in Bristol and elsewhere but ALL anti racist protestors - not one EDL or racists out. Huge crowds of peace marchers. Presenter just said it's not a counter protest because no protest to counter. Fingers crossed the nazis stay away

LoveLifeBeHappy · 13/08/2024 20:39

Kebarbra · 07/08/2024 09:57

Has it never been acknowledged? Really?

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The recent stabbing has highlighted a stark contrast. A 32-year-old man has appeared in court, charged with attempted murder after an 11-year-old girl was stabbed in London’s Leicester Square.

Now, imagine if the attacker had been Muslim—there would likely be riots, and the far-right would lose their minds again.

But this time, the attacker was white, and the hero who intervened was a Muslim man.

The online response to this is telling:

Anyone seen what's happening in Birmingham now
GoodieMcTwoshoes · 14/08/2024 00:11

@LoveLifeBeHappy Ioan Pintaru, the Leicester Square knifer, is Romanian. I'm surprised it hasn't kicked off again. I wonder how much it was a copycat thing in some way after the other incident.

StoneofDestiny · 14/08/2024 21:13

The person who intervened to save her was not white British.

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