Shannon Matthews step father charged

[AnAngelWithin]

10 counts of possessing indecent images of children

makes me

Well, there had to be good reasons why the social services didn't allow Shannon to return home. Seems like, as we predicted, some of those reasons are seeping into the public domain. And as long as the other kids are safe too.... I'm wondering, does Karen still warrant our sympathies, or is there more to come with regard to her?

Are we just an organ to peddle some vile gossip about this whole family who are obv. very dysfunctional, apparently abusive and self-abusive?? 'I know someone who used to know the window cleaner..., and I read in the Daily GutterGossip that..'. And the McCann angle is reprehensible.

Steady. No-one has pleaded to anything, never mind been convicted..but hey, who cares??

Pannini, I am part of the family and I haven't said a great deal, things will out themselves. I need to talk about it, without going into great detail and I haven't. This is MY family, I know MY family and their dealings. You have no idea what it is like living like I am at the moment and I hope for your sake you never will.

Immacualte I thought of you seeing the developements and figure it must be a really rough time trying to figure out fact from fiction truth from lies
Lets hope the truth will out.

Immacualte be careful with what you say on here
There are journalists etc around would like to think them all above such shiteous speculation, indeed the ones that I know are, but like you say money talks...
Vile
Take care

This is why I say very little. I will not sell my soul to the devil. It's just an out let on here and know that there are people who don't know me or my connection to this, that will listen.

Well IC, IF I was in your position I'd remain very quiet about it for a couple of reasons. 1. not provide detail to the www for all to read, incl. defense lawyers and 2. It's just tasteless.

Immaculate, I'm not surprised you're venting here on mumsnet. You must have so many upsetting thoughts doing endless laps in your head.......... and yet, you have made the very wise (IMO) decision not to tell anybody except very close friends. I think you have said very little. You certainly haven't thrown any tidbits in to feed the seals (or whatever that saying is?!)

Kimi, I didn't think that he was 'too good' for her because he was 22. I wondered what on earth they would have in common. Very little I suspect.

Yeah, but people could quote you even so. But I agree, you've been remarkably restrained in what you've said. We had already surmised that there was more to come, as it has transpired, so dont think you've let out any major scoop.

Panini, It is almost impossible to have NO opinion on something so emotional and upsetting.

This thread is nothing like 'juicy tidbits of gossip' as I think you're implying (?).

The need to try and make sense of something which is so shocking and upsetting is a pretty basic human instinct I would have thought. And this thread is not salacious in any way.

What a mess, he gives me the creeps.

Also can I add my admiration for Cod too, I couldn't do it, I really couldn't. You are a bit amazing you know?!

Makes me sick

OK madame, it strikes me as tasteless to provide any 'inside' gossip on such a controversial and delicate issue, esp. sub-judice, as I think it is.(?)

I do take your point totally though. IC has to be very careful, and I don't think she ahs been? And I guess taste is a matter of taste..

All I have said is all that is in the public domain anyway. Yes I'm a half sister, but which one is the question. Yes, I have the same dad, but so have others.

Also, I have not had any real contact with that side of the family for awhile. I am not an insider and nor do I wish to be. I am not feeding any kind of gossip.

Paninni, if I was to do that I would be all over the papers by now. I'm not and neither will I be. I haven't said a great deal on my feelings towards Karen or Craig or the women. The jury and judge will decide what happens to them. What I feel towards them is irrelevant, my concern are my neices and nephews. Like I said the truth will out which it is. I have not turned around and said this is all one big set up, have I?

IC has been fab in not letting anything slip I say.

All I am concerned about is the welfare of the children, the grown ups can fend for themselves, the children cannot.

Piffle, I'm a journalist. You make us sound like shifty types in dirty macs ready to sell anyone's soul for a few quid
I have no interest in exploiting IC's unfortunate situation. Nothing she says on here will end up in any publication imho.

Steady on Disenchanted!

Don't feed the fish!

Was just about to say the same thing Piffle. And no, she doesn't make all of you sound like shifty immoral types - she goes out of her way not to do that.

Though you do seem a bit biased towards the sensational

This is a public site and journos who are not members lurk, as is all too obvious if you read the papers.

And some of us are justifiably alert to this after at least one terrible intruision.

So don't have a cow, as my DS would say. one

Though you do seem a bit biased towards the sensational if thats what you think

Friday night vino gone to head already..

Eh?
You talkin' to me?

i am at the 'well what would a 22 year old want with a mum of x ?she must have known he was a pervert' type posts on this thread.talk about fucking sweeping generalisations

VS-i was a single mum of 3 when i met my toyboy dp(now dh).maybe i should have listened to my(violent,abusive,rapist)xp when he told me dh must have an ulterior motive