To comment that anyone wanting to find more about Zelensky - offshore dealings

[SandyStrawToad]

I'm not a bot.

Was just trying to find out a bit more about the situation, build-up of current events beyond the surface information.

Found a lot of information from late last year (leaked Pandora Papers) - of course like all news it's

but he isn't some naïve young actor with a cute architect wife who accidentally fell into politics whilst playing Paddington?

www.theguardian.com/news/2021/oct/03/revealed-anti-oligarch-ukrainian-president-offshore-connections-volodymyr-zelenskiy

www.occrp.org/en/the-pandora-papers/pandora-papers-reveal-offshore-holdings-of-ukrainian-president-and-his-inner-circle

globalhappenings.com/opinion/15391.html

eutoday.net/news/politics/2021/ukraine-82.3-consider-zelenskys-involvement-in-offshore-activities-unacceptable-poll-shows

Got my flameproof suit on but I just think in terms of information (especially as some Mumsnetters are probably using this forum as a primary source of information) it's useful to try to have a complete picture if you're thinking about how to engage with a situation that you're learning about.

Everyone comes into a situation from a different angle - I'm personally fairly uneasy with backing policies that put myself and people on the breadline at risk, by a multi-millionaire with substantial assets abroad with links to a billionaire who is already sanctioned by the EU and the US (awaits flaming).

(am I the only one who is hunting down a source of "unbiased news" regularly?)

I'm sure the regular media is aware of this and when it suits the narrative/story arc they'll bring it up again.

Fake news to discredit the man....remember when the op was part of the kgb? same shit different hat

Wait until you hear what Winston Churchill did before saving us all from the Nazis.

Yes dearie, you are the only one hunting down unbiased news
He is certainly showing moral calibre now.

It isn’t really relevant to Putin invading Ukraine though. Boris is pretty dodgy but I don’t think we should be invaded because of it.

What did you hope to achieve from this post op. Really?

but after spending the day reading up on more balanced / nuanced arguments

Why do I get the feeling that these arguments are on the same sort of shitty websites that think the covid vaccine is designed for global depopulation?

(am I the only one who is hunting down a source of "unbiased news" regularly?)

I expect so. Most people make do with the reputable news sources staffed by professional journalists that we have in the UK.

"Is it Soros, New World Order, something weird about Jewish people... Just spit it out FFS."

This is exactly what the op means.

’Personally, I think he’s much more bothered about being surrounded on the western flank by NATO countries with a clear view at world supremacy.’

I wonder why Ukraine is interested in joining NATO? Could it be because they’re bordered by a despotic regime that’s set up puppet leaders in neighbouring states and has been consistently threatening Ukrainian sovereignty for the past 8 years or so?

My links earlier were from the Guardian

Times of Israel
www.timesofisrael.com/ukraines-zelensky-under-fire-over-top-appointment/

BBC link too: www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57198736

But her emails!

@SandyStrawToad yes - it’s definitely a few of his dodgy offshore dealings that have lead Russian to bomb and kill thousands of innocent civilians in Ukraine.
Can you imagine if that was you as a child? Lots of these people are never going to recover mentally.
..you should feel utterly ashamed to be Russian.

Ukrainian President employs one of the big four to sort his taxes.

He'd probably pass an audit.

@pucelleauxblanchesmains

All I see on here is "there's more to this than we are being told" but no indication of what "more to this" might actually be. Is it Soros, New World Order, something weird about Jewish people... Just spit it out FFS. Stop idolising bloody nuance when Putin has outright stated he doesn't believe Ukraine to be a real country and regrets that the Soviet Union allowed states to leave. We've seen what he's done in Grozny and in Syria and a mix of handwringing do-gooders (I genuinely could not give a flying fuck at this time if some Ukrainians are racist) and QAnoners are on here bleating about NUANCE. Sod off.

100% this

I'm personally fairly uneasy with backing policies that put myself and people on the breadline at risk, by a multi-millionaire with substantial assets abroad with links to a billionaire who is already sanctioned by the EU and the US (awaits flaming).

Sorry I’m confused - what policies do you mean? Zelensky’s policies? How do they put you and others on the breadline at risk?

Could you be any more condescending? Also "I'm not a bot" makes me think you probably are a bot, or someone who has been paid to spread a little anti Zelensky propaganda around.

Right now, whilst Russia is invading Ukraine, is it that important that he has offshore accounts? Or apparant links to an oligarch in Russia?

His countrymen are being killed, buildings in his cities are being shelled. A nuclear power plant has been taken over by Russian soldiers. Millions displaced, Poland accepting millions of refugees...

And you're worried about his finances? Do fuck off. Its not important right now. Both the Ukrainian people and government have better things to worry about than his finances.

The racism at the boarder is absolutely and totally unacceptable, it really is. I have said too under stories about it on social media, and replied to people being ignorant. What else can I do from 1,500 miles away?

I hope that the Ukraine and the worlds reaction to Putin's actions bring him to his knees.

This is the second pre-Russian thread I've read today where I've done a search of the OPs name and found no other posts. Genuinely, I think Russian bots are trying to win us over.

Well he's said he's going to stay in Kyiv until the end whatever that might be. So I'm sure there are more pressing issues on his mind than the state of his off shore savings accounts.

But don't let us stop you with your conspiracy theory nonsense.

OP fancies themselves as some kind of big thinking provocateur type

So if some country decided they fancied invading the uk you’d be cool with that because Johnson is utterly corrupt? If your house, work place, children’s school was being flattened then that’d be fine?

Of course there is more to it all. It’s not like Putin woke up and fancied a nice old invade.

And no one is squeaky clean but this isn’t the time really.

Off you pop back to your leader. Who is still a deluded, murderous, cunt of a dictator who's fucking up left, right and centre. Unlike Mr Zelenskyy.

"Genuinely, I think Russian bots are trying to win us over"

Agreed but it's going about as well as their invasion of Ukraine

Oh go away with you

Look at all the other presidents in the world, they are all the same

This is to do with fighting Russian aggression, and he’s doing a bloody good job

Nope still don't get it. Who actually cares at this point in time? How does any of it give Russia the right to invade a sovereign country. What fucking difference does it make?

What the hell! I couldn't care less that he isn't some kind of saint. He's quite likely to be dead in a few days time because he didn't leave his country in their time of need. What an utterly tasteless and idiotic post, op