Charlie Gard 18

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Ok guys, we have been very lucky to discuss this, please lets not give anyone anything to complain about, Mhq have been more than accomodating.

@JoshuaRozenberg
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Gard: Court now adjourned to await arrival of the family’s specialist doctor.

We're back
Gard: lawyers return to court. Connie Yates in her usual seat. Judge about to enter. Armstrong preparing to update him on discussions.

looby - you're probably right you know.

CGF has just tweeted that they are coming back in. JR still not tweeted again.

"Can a retired doctor be allowed to look after Charlie in his last days anyway?
Surely the hospital wouldn't release him to the care of a random retired doctor regardless of his credentials?
And would GOSH nurses legally allowed to work in these circumstances?"
I assume those are issues that the legal team for GOSH understands. Whether it is medically desirable to have this novel ITU set-up, and whether or not the hospice agree, and what the timescale will be............
News reports elsewhere refer to a 'team of doctors' (Telegraph), and since the Telegraph had the muscle atrophy info that I didn't see elsewhere, may be reliable.............

Coming back in now...........

@frances_skynews
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Court is tense - some muted whispering as Connie takes her seat

xpost

@frances_skynews
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All rising for the judge

The judge in my opinion is trying to do something for the parents, we all know Charlie is going to die, but just giving them a little something make may help them feel a tiny bit better.

@frances_skynews
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Gosh not satisfied with the arrangements that have been discussed out of court

Gard: lawyers return to court. Connie Yates in her usual seat. Judge about to enter. Armstrong preparing to update him on discussions.

@JoshuaRozenberg
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Armstrong: discussions between doctor and GOSH. No arrangements yet that would satisfy GOSH. Is an intensivist needed for palliative care?

Vincent McAviney @Vinny_LBC
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Replying to @Vinny_LBC and @LBC
Discussions have taken place between the Dr and GOSH team, GOSH not satisfied with the arrangements as they say intensivist needed.

@frances_skynews
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Family lawyer says Connie Yates 'not a quitter'

Thank you SadGuru

"Is an intensivist needed for palliative care?"

GOSH not satisfied. It's medical opinions fight time again...........

Maryz, the DM have a track record of making up fictional accounts of what happens in court beforehand. Remember the Amanda Knox case where they accidentally posted a graphic account of everyone's reactions to her losing the appeal - except she'd won?

The judge will not have a medical adviser. He relies on evidence from experts. GOSH have experts. They will need to respond, via their QC, to proposals from a new Dr. However the judge won't listen to just any Dr when GOSH are the acknowledged experts. That's why he wants details about this Dr. The Barristers can meet to agree a way forward that suits all sides outside court.

The Judge also relies on the law and the fact that the needs of the child come first. That is enshrined in family law.

There's going to be another 24 hours delay, isn't there?

VMcA:
Barrister Grant Armstrong says Connie Yates still wants to work to sort arrangements and is asking for more time for this.

I agree muckypup but where does it end? The family may see him as a soft touch/ally and keep pushing.

@JoshuaRozenberg
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Armstrong: Connie Yates wants to press on. Can she have more time? She now feels discussions should be conducted in private.

It isn't about her though, it's about what is best for her son and she is at serious risk of letting her stubbornness make his last days even harder than they need to be.

I do wonder if the fact Chris isn't there speaks volumes about who is pushing this side of things.

Vincent McAviney @Vinny_LBC
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Replying to @Vinny_LBC and @LBC
Barrister Grant Armstrong says Connie Yates still wants to work to sort arrangements and is asking for more time for this.