Charlie Gard (16) Future implications arising from case

[Puzzledandpissedoff]

If anyone wants to post, perhaps we could consider what implications today's case might have for others in future ... ?

OK angel, I'll leave it to you now.

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I don't think it would be a peaceful and serene passing if they took him home, with all the noise of the inevitable media scrum outside.

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@JoshuaRozenberg 1m1 minute ago

Armstrong: we believe a portable ventilator should be perfectly possible.

@JoshuaRozenberg 2m2 minutes ago

Armstrong: if Charlie had been taken to the US, a portable ventilator could have been used. We can't understand what the problem is now.

@JoshuaRozenberg 3m3 minutes ago
Armstrong: transfer across London seems problematic. Judge: practical problems?

@JoshuaRozenberg 1m1 minute ago

Gard: earlier, the judge asked if Connie Yates was happy for this hearing to remain open to the public. She said yes.

I have a feeling if it can happen, it will.

From earlier information the Judge said the child should not be moved from GOSH without his permission,.

Presumably they'd need a police escort

Sorry for the slight hiatus there, mumsnet crashed on me!

Presumably they'd need a police escort

@JoshuaRozenberg 24s25 seconds ago

Judge: GOSH says ventilator won't fit through the front door of the property to which Charlie's parents want to take him.

an if i was a bird i coul fly-whats his point noon wantd himto fly to us bcaus of th problms

@JoshuaRozenberg 46s47 seconds ago

Judge: what about a hospice? Armstrong: second-best option.

why does she want it to remain public

feel its all for show no

I can't see managers being willing to be responsible for staff going into such a vulnerable position. I wonder if the transport thing has been GOSH trying to prevent having to say this.

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Judge: these are issues that cry out for mediation rather than a judgment by me.

Judge: GOSH says ventilator won't fit through the front door of the property to which Charlie's parents want to take him.

Short term use ventilators and so I'm assuming portable ventilators can actually be really small. The ones we use at my Trust when we ventilate a child are small enough that they'd fit in a carrier bag

The parents obviously just want the child out of GOSH at all costs.

It must be so humiliating for the staff after all they have done.

The parents had discussions with GOSH yesterday and today and would have been informed that the equipment would not fit in through their door.

I hope they manage to get an agreement

Judge is getting frustrated and little wonder.

If the Judge is asking about a hospice, that would seem to imply that he's willing to consider Charlie being moved doesn't it?

Will they find a hospice to accept him?

I agree Gabs. If for no other reason than that I would want to keep my plans private. They're going to end up with CA doing candlelight vigils on the front lawn.

Judge is getting fed up, I think.

Oh dear. If Charlie were to die during the transfer, GOSH will be blamed again.
I think the hospice suggestion is terrible, sorry Judge Francis. There's no way they'd be able to keep quiet which hospice Charlie had gone to and that would then become another part of the circus.