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Mass sexual assaults in Cologne and other European cities part IV

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VertigoNun · 11/01/2016 12:14

The reports of attacks on Women in NYE, are in their hundreds.Sad

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hiddenhome2 · 12/01/2016 21:33

Chinese people are very polite and cheerful - we have lots in our city as they come to study. Couldn't they come to live here instead?

2016IsANewYearforMe · 12/01/2016 21:35

hidden, it helps capitalist who need cheap labour.

TwistedReach · 12/01/2016 21:35

Help, really I think it can mean lots of different things, which was why I was trying to understand. You could talk about a family culture or a school culture. You can talk about a british culture, but it becomes hard to define because of the variation within- middle class and working class for example. I do think that all of these things impact on people, small local cultures- family culture, as well as wider culture- could be religion or language or village or country.
Sometimes finding the differences and similarities can be interesting and informative. I think all of these factors can influence how somebody grows up and develops. It can also influence how someone responds to adversity.

But there are other factors too, relative poverty or wealth, early and later experiences, internal make up- which is influenced by interacts with all of the above.

HelpTheAnimalsFirst · 12/01/2016 21:36

hiddenhome: "I still can't figure out how mass immigration helps Europe"

It helps us use up all that silly greenbelt land that's sitting doing nothing.

hiddenhome2 · 12/01/2016 21:36

Cheap labour? I see. Exploitation of the lower orders and all that Sad

hiddenhome2 · 12/01/2016 21:38

That naughty greenbelt land and those selfish animals wot live there Sad

WillBeatJanuaryBlues · 12/01/2016 21:39

Twisted there have been a number of books recommended on this thread that will give you a good insight into women living under cultures where the male dominates in law and religion. You could also do wider reading on subjects like communism, a day in the life of One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich, or Life and Death In Shanghai, or The Private life of Chairman Mao or Wild Swans, to give you some idea of adversity and trying to live under harsh and twisted Wink rules. Do some wider reading perhaps? Try and empathise with the writers etc imagine yourself living under those conditions....it will help you and us

hiddenhome2 · 12/01/2016 21:40

I'm thinking we could emigrate to......Tristan da Cunha? Anybody?

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WillBeatJanuaryBlues · 12/01/2016 21:41

hidden normal controlled immigration I believe is brilliant

Flooding countries, and the populations who live there with millions of people is not a good idea and I can only think it does benefit big business, its brought about so many social problems, so many infrastructure crises...in so many ways, I just cant see what mass flooding of countries with low skilled labour does.

BigChocFrenzy · 12/01/2016 21:41

Emily True it would be a minority of white men taking part in mass sexual assaults on Muslim women.
However, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be concentrating so much on not blaming white men - you'd be screaming your outrage at racist white rapists.

hiddenhome2 · 12/01/2016 21:44

How about '1984' as well?

Seeing as we're all guilty of thoughtcrime and doublethink.

2+2= whatever emily and twisted say it is

hiddenhome2 · 12/01/2016 21:46

Yes, flooding people in is just crippling the infrastructure I agree Sad

Crime just adds insult to injury.

TwistedReach · 12/01/2016 21:49

Will, I do empathise with anyone living under oppressive regimes and that includes ones in which women are oppressed by men.
I have read about oppressed women (and men and children) who have lived in oppressive regimes. I have also spent time with such women (and men and children) in different capacities.
It is in some ways unimaginable. Small homeless children talking about escaping the taliban comes to mind.
And yet I still want to understand what makes somebody behave in cruel and dehumanising ways.

HelpTheAnimalsFirst · 12/01/2016 21:50

I caught a bit of TV late last night. The screen showed a muslim woman covered except for face holding her infant. She loves her baby, but I realised that when that little boy reaches his mid-teenage years he will be bossing his sisters around (even if they are older) as well as his mother. He will become his father's enforcer in the home. And his mother's care and devotion wont matter very much at all compared to the position he automatically takes because he was born male.

emilybohemia · 12/01/2016 21:51

Wiilbeat

' coupled with a religion that says all infidels are fair game, coupled with the feeling that western girls are worthless, promiscuous and there fore slags coupled with their even asking for it by wearing un modest clothes..'.

concern yourself with that.

Which religion says infidels are fair game? Do you mean Islam? It does not say that.

Pinkchampchoccies · 12/01/2016 21:52

The number of assaults on Jewish people in France has also drastically risen over the last couple of years:

As a result the jewish community in Marseille have been advised not to wear their traditional clothing.

www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/2016-01/frankreich-marseille-messer-attacke-kippa-verzicht

Another population group whose rights are being eroded and who have to live in fear due to hostility from a certain group of men.

WillBeatJanuaryBlues · 12/01/2016 21:53

Because they can Twisted. They want too and its fun and they have no guilt over it due to various factors? How many times can it be explained how women are treated in some of these places, one cant imagine, we cant even get proper reporting and punishment for perpetrators of crime here in the UK, we have no idea of the horrors going on and on what scale although we got a look didnt we in cologne.

HelpTheAnimalsFirst · 12/01/2016 21:53

Emily: "Which religion says infidels are fair game? Do you mean Islam? It does not say that.

Then why is it allowed if not encouraged for muslims to deceive the infidels in whatever way they think appropriate? Taqiyya ..... remember?

Justanotherlurker · 12/01/2016 21:55

An alternative view point

nypost.com/2016/01/10/europe-is-enabling-a-rape-culture/

HelpTheAnimalsFirst · 12/01/2016 21:56

Pink: "The number of assaults on Jewish people in France has also drastically risen over the last couple of years:"

Marseille is a favourite destination for muslim people settling in France. It may be a clash .... dont know why.

TwistedReach · 12/01/2016 21:56

Help how on earth do you know that? That is not thinking about culture, that is an absolute assumption (that I would argue is based on racism). Racism defined as,
'the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races' from the first definition found on google.

But if you do believe that, that that baby will definitely become like that because of what he was born in to, do you blame him individually?

polentapies · 12/01/2016 21:57

Twisted And yet I still want to understand what makes somebody behave in cruel and dehumanising ways."

Can I suggest
Thiiiis????

HelpTheAnimalsFirst · 12/01/2016 22:00

Twisted What are you talking about? This thread is about the domination and cruelty of men over women esp. in the ME. I was remarking that given that that is so, this little boy may well also adopt misogynistic behaviour when he grows up. It is afterall his "inheritance" because it will be imbued into him that he is superior to his sisters and to his mother.

TwistedReach · 12/01/2016 22:00

Will, Im not sure what you are trying to explain to me. I know that women experience all kinds of atrocity all over the world.

CouncilOfLadies · 12/01/2016 22:01

Has anyone seen this tweet from the WEP?

"If we rounded up & deported all those who committed violence against women in #cologne violence against women would NOT STOP @SophieRunning"

Unfuckingbelievable. What does the WEP actually stand for, because it certainly isn't women.

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