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Mass sexual assaults in Cologne and other European cities part IV

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VertigoNun · 11/01/2016 12:14

The reports of attacks on Women in NYE, are in their hundreds.Sad

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polentapies · 12/01/2016 20:19

Nearly at the end Bee

DespicableBee · 12/01/2016 20:27

Has it even been on the BBC news, or is this first time it's reported on TV??

BigChocFrenzy · 12/01/2016 20:28

If it was just petty criminals wanting to steal on NYE, why were hardly any German men robbed or beaten ?

SonyaAtTheSamovar · 12/01/2016 20:29

I distinctly remember Huw Edwards mentioning it on News at 10.

kesstrel · 12/01/2016 20:30

In addition to what Ego said above, twisting and mis-representing what others have said in order to attack them has also been used a lot, including plenty of examples of the "complex question fallacy". Also sweeping generalisations, for example about the "racist" nature of the whole of the threads.

VertigoNun · 12/01/2016 20:32

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3395916/Boys-snatched-families-ISIS-reveal-ordered-kill-parents-trained-child-soldiers-legs-broken-refused.html#comments-3395916

Children Sad

I once thought someone suggesting the mark on the head thing, was being rediclous...

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DespicableBee · 12/01/2016 20:37

That guy who got shot at the police station in Paris, aprently he had carried out a sexual assault two years ago in cologne

BigChocFrenzy · 12/01/2016 20:42

For those who keep minimising these mass sexual attacks against women, consider the opposite situation:

+ 1,000 white men sexually assault hundreds of Muslim women, say in a shopping mall
+ White men go on YouTube to boast how 7 of them gang-raped a virgin Muslim girl
+ White paedophile gangs in Rotherham terrorise & repeatedly rape 1,400 teenage Muslim girls

Would you minimise like this ....
Hmm
Only a minority of white men....
We must remember the white underclass is severely disadvantaged...
Don't be ravist against white men

If you really want voters to turn to the far-right, just keep minimising and excusing these crimes against women.

colouringinagain · 12/01/2016 20:45

Ch4 plus 1 WEP on the news...

IamTheWhoreofBabylon · 12/01/2016 20:46

This may have been noted but I'm watching 4 news on catch
WEP are on

Justanotherlurker · 12/01/2016 20:47

So twisted, I know your waiting to pounce.
Just another, I don think that looking at common factors has to be inherently racist- no.

So one common factor that is coming out of this is Immigration and culture, socio economics also plays apart but still looking at the stats Immigration and said culture are still overly represented.

That being the case should we avoid talking about the culture even though during the first couple of threads everyone pained themselves as to explicitly state they where not broad brushing said demographic?

Everyone knows that Europe has enough home grown misogynist rapists but until we know how to address the problem (if we are allowed to talk about it) then asking questions of who we are accepting into Europe (free movement and all that) is a valid avenue of discourse, no?

If you think it's a simple case of stick them in a class room for a couple of weeks, there are plenty of posts on here to give you examples of why that's not the case due to feminism, if you want to be very callus then refer to Rotherem/Oxford/Derby etc.

As the previous threads and recent reports has highlighted, you are in fact part of the problem that has stifled debate so far?

emilybohemia · 12/01/2016 20:54

Big choc, stating it was a minority of white men would be true if it occurred, so how would it be minimising?

Kesstrell, I haven't twisted anything. I have questioned the focus on race and generalisations about Muslims. I have questioned many assertions that limiting immigration is the answer.

Ego, what makes you so special that I can't say you are wrong. What is the problem with opposing opinions to yours?

Many of the opinions on here are hysterical and paranoid and ignorant. The fear of vulnerable people is really sad.

VertigoNun · 12/01/2016 20:54

Well done Ch4.

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DespicableBee · 12/01/2016 21:00

Channel four debate was good

SonyaAtTheSamovar · 12/01/2016 21:01

It was the second contributor who covered the bases. The Woman's equality Party rep less willing to think outside her box.

emilybohemia · 12/01/2016 21:01

Help the animals, I don't think there are many Egyptian immigrants in Germany. There is however a silence and lack of consequences for women when they are attacked. Noone needs to import it. It is already there.

TwistedReach · 12/01/2016 21:01

Just another, I have at no point said that it is not okay to talk about culture.

I completely agree with you that 'sticking someone in a class for a few weeks' will not stop rape.

I have not seen any statistics on the socio-economic status compared to immigration or country of origin of any of the men who have committed violent attacks, have you? When you say culture, what do you mean? They do not all come from the same culture. Do you mean they are all muslim? I don't know either way whether that is true or not, but is that what you mean?

DespicableBee · 12/01/2016 21:02

I found the women's equality party lady abit annoying tbh

Wordsaremything · 12/01/2016 21:03

Agree Sonya. The first unwilling to be drawn outside what I now see as well meaning groupthink. Second was great.

HelpTheAnimalsFirst · 12/01/2016 21:04

Emily: " I have questioned the focus on race and generalisations about Muslims."

There comes a point in any observation or investigation (of anything) when generalisations cease to be that. They become clues and then discovery of hitherto unknown, antisocial behaviours.

polentapies · 12/01/2016 21:06

"The first unwilling to be drawn outside what I now see as well meaning groupthink."
Nicely put Word

Pinkchampchoccies · 12/01/2016 21:07

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3395924/Girl-17-raped-14-year-old-sister-sexually-assaulted-tried-save-group-Syrian-migrants-surrounded-German-public-swimming-pool.html

irl, 17, is 'raped' and her 14-year-old sister is sexually assaulted as she tried to save her when group of Syrian migrants surrounded them at German public swimming pool

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