Just caught up with the thread, thought we'd tipped into an alternative dimension with some of the posts - very odd.
Regarding us all speculating, the majority of the posters over all four threads have only speculated or drawn conclusions from the evidence they have heard given at the trial. I think that is perfectly acceptable and posters have backed up their opinions on the evidence and debated sensibly with other posters with differing opinions and asked for and received clarification of certain points. This has made these threads balanced, interesting and a welcome forum for intelligent discussion on a tragic, apalling event, I hope it stays that way I'm not keen on the veering into wierdness - all that flowery, fallen Greek hero stuff leaves me cold.
On the subject of the phone calls to security/Pieter Baba I thought OP had dialled the number and then quickly cut it off to phone Mr Stander instead which is why Pieter Baba then called him back?
On balance to date I think the Prosecution's case and witnesses have been more convincing than the Defence's so far, but there are more Defence witnesses to come. I was surprised by a SA legal expert's comment that the Defence normally put their best witnesses on first, so if the calibre if their witnesses can be judged by Mr Dixon I think they are in for a torrid time.
I can't stop thinking about poor Reeva though, so awful, you can see the pain etched on her mother's face. I do think that Mr. Nel is doing a very good job of not letting people forget that Reeva is the centre of this tragedy and he is fighting damned hard to achieve justice for her.