woman suffocated her new born baby walks free

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\link{http://scotlandtoday.scottishtv.co.uk/content/default.asp?page=s1_1_1&newsid=11184&newsType=\here} this is so sad

Oh, that poor girl.

oh god what an awful story
poor woman and poor little baby

poor baby

poor woman? she was in control of her actions well enough to have sex! why couldn't she just give it up for adoption? she should have been locked up, prison or mental health facility but locked up either way

i have to agree with pinkTulips

well the judge decided she was not in control of her actions. there was presumably a psychiatric report.

She had sex nine months before giving birth, Tulip... concealed pregnancy is hardly a novel concept. People don't act rationally when they are terrified or unable to handle the fact that they are pregnant. The poor girl deserves compassion, not condemnation.

She was told it was too late - so then what? No counselling or advice or referrals? Hello?

if she was mentally unstable enough to get of with murdering her child she should be in some sort of mental health facility for therapy and counselling. if she's not crazy enough for that then why has she gotton away with it? shes not a teen parent, what would her parents have done that was so bad? and the fathers family were in court so he can't have raped her or anything like that.

doesn't make sense

PinkTulips, without all the facts you really can't judge her.

some women only find out their preganant when they hae the baby, they don't all kill the babies in fright! 20 weeks is half a pregnancy to decide what to do, and like JanH said, doctors must have known if she tried to get an abortion, surely she was offered help?

OMG

More to be pitied than villified.

Her relationship with the father of her child was obviously a lot less horrific than that of her parents.

The body of her son was discovered hidden in a cupboard in the family home in Buckie - Beverley had admitted to police that she had smothered him minutes after giving birth to him alone in her bedroom.

I grew up in Holy Catholic Ireland and I would never have been this terrified. My parents would have been sad, sad for me, sad for the baby, sad that nothing would have come to close to reaching the then status quo.

But I would never ever even have considered her course of action. The very basis of human nature is to nurture, she must have been in a very bad place.

\link{http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4903002.stm\you can read the sentencing report here}

no psychiatric disorders but psychological and behavourial problems
I simply cannot imagine giving birth in silence and in secret

PT, no, I was assuming she wasn't given any support by the GP - that they said no abortion, sorry, next? and that was the end of it.

Pinktulips, cases take months or even years to come to court. Presumably the judge and jury know more than we do about the poor girl's state of mind at the time this happened and now.

sorry all, tbh theres no way in hell i'm going to come round to the whole 'poor her' philosophy and i don't want to have a fight about it. you're all entitled to your opinions, i just can't agree with you so i'll leave it alone now.

And under the circs, why was 20 weeks considered too late? Post-amnio terminations occur later than that. Awful for the medics involved I know but surely that would have been better than this?

did you read the sentencing report
poor porr woman. her life is just so blighted now

Pinktulips, what purpose does condemning her serve? Does it make you feel good?

Pink Tulips

Are you in a really really great place in your life ??

Because I am sorry,but you come across as super smug.

Good point Lockets.