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[wastingaway]

Welcome to the slatterns thread, where everyone is welcome to share their lists, get motivated and share tips.

Afternoon, had a hectic morning, DS had a presentation in school and then had computers.

Came home and got the funny lines in front of my eyes and the start of a headache so rang my GP to see if there was any chance for a appointment. They gave me one for 4pm with a locum. She thinks it might be viral (doctor talk for 'I havent a clue whats wrong with you!') Was a bit annoyed cause I got no answers and she never even checked my eyes. Would have thought if someone is complaining of seeing things that whould be the first things you check. Oh and she told me to rest: 4 DC,DH and a DM with dementia, that really works .

Ok rant over, as you were

Right haven't done any thing on my list except bake 3 cakes and carve one into a racing car

so looks like homemade burgers tonight & cottage pie tomorrow night, better get crackin!

CC. Not another Migraine? Did they give you sumatriptin? If I have the Aura with the migraine it generally last about 20-30 mins, i know not everybody gets it.
Hope you feel better soon.

Evening lovely slatterns

Cikecaka poor you, that sounds so tough. How about an opticians appointment? Might be that your eyes are being strained?

Plum i looked on your profile for new cakes and there aren't any! I want to see more cakes!!

Wasting we got that bed for DD and although she liked to play at going to bed in it she didn't actually sleep in it when we were at FIL's. Going to try again in a few weeks when we go again. Will be very handy especially as she may have to stay over someones house when the baby arrives. (really hoping that this labour is short and during the day!)

Big wave to everyone else

Evening all .

Yay for DS Wasting! I hope you have a good night tonight too.

FO, two of my girls have a weird viral rash aswell .

(((Hugs))) for you CC.

Waves to rest of lovely slatterns .

It is a total nightmare here I did the schoolrun with two pukey girls tagging along and it was raining.
Then DP came home early because he threw up at work now DS and DD1 feel ill and L has just thrown up on me again.
I am feeling very hard done by right now and a little bit like Cinderella .

DD1/DD4 ready for school done
Cleaned kitchen surfaces and floor done
Tidy living room done
Wiped bathroom done
Load of washing in done
Hung washing out done
Helped DD2/3 dress and wash done

To do.

Dress L done
Peel spuds done
Hoover done
L some dinner done
Another load in washer done
Hair done
Schoolrun done

Also

Made tea that nobody ate done
Washed pots done
Got girls ready for bed done
Cleaned up sick done
Felt sorry for self doing

Need to do

Sky+ apprentice
Get L to sleep
Go to bed

CWWM - that is officially a rubbish day (((hugs and cake)))

CC - can your sister take over with your Mum for a few days so that you've one less thing to do? Hope you are feeling better soon. You should be on some proper drugs I think if you are getting cluster migraines like this, I would ring up in the morning and get the soonest appointment you can with your usual GP.

Alice - you sound cheerful Hope you are busy doing nothing!

Plum - it took me all afternoon to wrap up three parcels, write a card and get to the post office - so 3 cakes is good going!!

I must do some cleaning, have really let things slide this week. Friend is coming over tomorrow for lunch so must have the kitchen sparkly and dust downstairs tonight.

WEDNESDAY
DH up at ungodly hour to go to interview - done
Me up at a more civilised hour I hope - done
Shower and dressed - done
Get DS up and dressed - done
Spatone + vitamins - done
Breakfast and tidy kitchen - done
Make beds and tidy upstairs - done
Wipe over bathroom - done
Sweep downstairs
Put away all clean laundry - done
DH home before lunch - done
Lunch and tidy kitchen - done
Put a wash on - done
Walk with DS
Pack up parcels and presents - done
Post Office - done
Dinner - done
Clear up - mostlydone
Run dishwasher - done
DS bath and bed - done
Post DS-to-bed tidy - done
Kitchen clear before bed

CLEANING THIS WEEK
Mop kitchen and hall
Dust downstairs
Dust upstairs
Mirrors and glass doors
Stairs and bannisters
Shower screen
Living room blinds
De-cobweb downstairs
Upstairs paintwork
Insides of downstairs windows (didn't get done last week)

OTHER JOBS THIS WEEK
Alphabetise final bookcase
Pay window cleaner and Green Thumb - MUST do this
Post present to FIL - done
Post new job card to friend - done
Post new baby card and present to friend who had baby last week - done
Send back jeans that I hated for a refund - done

Hooray can completely tick off last weeks list. well apart from pay bills. Is that the baillifs I hear?

LIST FOR TODAY
print student handouts done
look up notes for tomorrowdone
pay bills what bills eek completely forgot this one
be a nice friend to friend having a hard timedone shopyup cookyup
dentist aptyup hooveryup
get sticky stuff off kitchen floor yup
find cause of sticky stuff on kitchen floorhmmtick

Thanks Ali .

Well done on the list Mini, don't worry about the bailiffs I find if you hide behind the sofa they soon go away .

Sky+ apprentice watched
Get L to sleep done
Go to bed going now

Morning

Up for school/nursery
Breakfast
Help girls wash and dress
Load of washing in
School run
Contact ds school RE sickness
Clean bedrooms

Evening.

CWWM, is that all of your clan puking now?

Well done Minima!

I'm hoping he settles ok in it Alice. Not sure whether to try it at home before we go. It's such an awkward stage to be at, I wish he'd bought a cotbed for his place instead of the travelcot he got us, even though it was v. useful. Wasteful to buy a toddler bed for his, but not safe to put DS in a normal single bed yet.

Ali, hope the kitchen's shiny.

Anyway, had a good day and DS is snuggled in his bed.

• Me up, showered and dressed done
• beds made, windows and curtains open done
• DS up, nappy changed and dressed, then downstairs for boob done
• spatone, oj and vitamins done
• breakfast done
• coffee + check mail and online banking doing
• laundry - put load in done hang load up done
• go for a walk done
• kitchen done 15 mins
• lunch done
• Morrisons done
• garden - tomato seeds rain
• painting with DS done
• feed the birds done
• take rubbish, recycling and compost caddy out done
• 5 o?clock - tea done
• wash pots and tidy kitchen some
• tidy downstairs done + hoover done
• DS bath and bed, wipe round bathroom, teeth and face done
• craft time done

Grot -

• oven
• tv screen
• macbook screen
• kill the ants
• hand washing
• pedicure

To Do -

• plan Christmas 2010, next - decide on gifts to make, use what I?ve got for now- get cross-stitch framed, mark dates in Calendar for making Christmas cake etc.
• sort digital photos and order any I want prints of
• mirrors - put mirror tiles up above bathroom sink, other mirror up above dressing table
• work out what?s wrong with breadmaker still flat, try some new yeast? new yeast bought trying
• buy external hard-drive
• prepare for holiday! 2 weeks away!

Morning .

Wasting- I am the only one who hasn't thrown up .

We overlaid this morning .

Hope everyone has a good day.

Up for school/nursery done
Breakfast done
Help girls wash and dress done
Load of washing in
School run dpdoing
Contact ds school RE sickness done
Clean bedrooms

Morning!

CWWM, you stay puke-free!

We've been up since 5.50.

• Me up, showered and dressed done
• beds made, windows and curtains open done
• DS up, nappy changed and dressed, then downstairs for boob done
• spatone, oj and vitamins done
• breakfast done
• coffee + check mail and online banking doing
• tidy DS toys in front room done
• laundry - put load in
• kitchen - 15 mins
• Morrisons
• lunch
• garden - tomato seeds
• feed the birds
• take rubbish, recycling and compost caddy out
• 5 o?clock - tea
• wash pots and tidy kitchen
• tidy downstairs
• DS bath and bed, wipe round bathroom, teeth and face
• craft time

Grot -

• oven
• tv screen
• macbook screen
• kill the ants
• hand washing
• pedicure
• bathroom cabinet

To Do -

• plan Christmas 2010, next - decide on gifts to make, use what I?ve got for now- get cross-stitch framed, mark dates in Calendar for making Christmas cake etc.
• sort digital photos and order any I want prints of
• mirrors - put mirror tiles up above bathroom sink, other mirror up above dressing table
• work out what?s wrong with breadmaker still flat, try some new yeast? new yeast bought flat
• buy external hard-drive
• prepare for holiday! 2 weeks away!

CWWM - take it easy to day all of you, hope you are all better soon!

Wasting - DS was awake early here too, about 6ish. DH was awake though so took him downstairs and I got another 2 hour. Now I am behind though, really must get on.

THURSDAY
Me and DH up - done
Shower and dressed - DHdone
Get DS up and dressed - done
Spatone + vitamins
Breakfast and tidy kitchen - done + wipe over kitchen
Unload dishwasher
Fold washing on airer
Hang out load from last night
Make beds and tidy upstairs
Wipe over bathroom
Hoover and sweep downstairs
Dust downstairs
Lunch and tidy kitchen
Monkey Music
Friend back here for a cuppa
Dinner
Clear up
DS bath and bed
Post DS-to-bed tidy
Kitchen clear before bed

CLEANING THIS WEEK
Mop kitchen and hall
Dust downstairs
Dust upstairs
Mirrors and glass doors
Stairs and bannisters
Shower screen
Living room blinds
De-cobweb downstairs
Upstairs paintwork
Insides of downstairs windows (didn't get done last week)

OTHER JOBS THIS WEEK
Alphabetise final bookcase
Pay window cleaner and Green Thumb - MUST do this

HOUSE
Fix light in cooker hood (not just a duff bulb apparently)
Clean carpets - livingroomdone
Put up extra hooks in utility
Plant remaining summer bulbs
New sealant round bath

Morning all, have brother & SIL here for a few days so not on much.

CWWM - hope you don't get the bug and everyone else recovers asap.

HMHB - well done on the wedding, so explain the change of outfit, when & why? or just for fun?

It's our 6th wedding anniversary tomorrow & i've done nothing! Hopefully DH won't have either... i think we are going out to dinner just the 2 of us so that will have to do.

Left from Mon!:

• post any stamped TQ letters NotDone
• furniture-maker friend coming to look at chairs DONE (waiting for quote)
• ironing/folding & putting away DONE

Thurs:

• all up, dressed & breakfasted DONE
• DS1 to pre-sch DONE
• continue constructing enormous climbing frame!! (handyman came round yesterday and started it, it's huge though and taking ages) DB&SILDoing!!
• collect DS1
• lunch & tidy kitchen
• DS2 nap
• afternoon activity? more climbing frame prob/handyman coming again later
• boys tea, bath & bed
• DB & SIL leaving at some point
• DH home at some point
• our dinner

Ongoing List:

• contact new dentist & see if we can register; need details of which dentist from DH DoneButTheyWontTakeUsOn
• upload & order online prints Started-Done More
• order door curtain (& rail) for front door - Autumn job really
• clean kitchen cupboard doors Done3More
• put cds onto DH's pc, then they can go into loft with others
• find out about swimming lessons for DS1 - Have Name Of School; HavePhoneNumber
• copy Wasting and think about Christmas; PIL definitely away/Us definitely staying at home!
• sort out holiday in August to Jersey; hire car (+ seats)
• change over to reusables nappies for DS2 in the day DoneOddDays
• my underwear - massive sort out & throw away old bits Started - Bought Some New Bits
• Thank-yous for DS1's birthday DeliverLast2
• sort out summer clothes for boys DS1DONE GetNextBoxFromLoft
• Loft trip with 3 full boxes (anything else?)
• sort out toys 'too old for DS1',

'too young for DS1 but too old for DS2' & 'too young for DS2' and put away neatly somewhere

• climbing frame!!!

Hope no more sick comes your way CWWM, how was the night? Are they all off school/nursery today?

Think is defo a virus ds has, I've got up with a sore throat, swollen glands, fuzzy head and general achyness. Don't feel ill as such, just a little bit off.

Meeting at BIG school tonight to find out who dd's teachers is etc. My baby is growing up

Think I am losing the plot a bit, was practically hyperventilating this morning about the state of the house and then all it took was for me to wash up, wipe the sides, pick up a few bits and hoover Although I think it might be the birthday cards everywhere that are making me feel cluttered and messy, definitely do better with clear surfaces.

DONE
All up etc
Washig up
dd to preschool
pay deposit for trip
return preschool knickers
wipes sides and table
tidy sittng room
make beds
sort clean washing
recycling into box
hoover downstairs
clean loo
clean bathroom sink

Still to do
dust bedrooms
ironing
clothes put away
hoover upstairs
pick up dd
lunch
toddler group
Check bank acc
order booster seat for hol
order bunk beds?
arrange gas check
dinner
dc bath and bed
Tidy round
to meeting
dinner

Freak - I am having an OMG DS is growing up week this week. We are applying to preschools for him, going to go and have a look at one tomorrow morning. Just hoping he can get a space as they have already got a waiting list and he's not due to start until September next year!

THURSDAY
Me and DH up - done
Shower and dressed - done
Get DS up and dressed - done
Spatone + vitamins
Breakfast and tidy kitchen - done + wipe over kitchen - done
Unload dishwasher - done
Fold washing on airer - done
Hang out load from last night
Make beds and tidy upstairs - done
Wipe over bathroom - done
Tidy downstairs - done
Put nappies on to wash - done
Attack post pile - done
Hoover and sweep downstairs
Dust downstairs
Lunch and tidy kitchen
Monkey Music
Friend back here for a cuppa
Plan picnic for tomorrow
Dinner
Clear up
DS bath and bed
Post DS-to-bed tidy
Kitchen clear before bed

CLEANING THIS WEEK
Mop kitchen and hall
Dust downstairs
Dust upstairs
Mirrors and glass doors - upstairsdone
Stairs and bannisters
Shower screen - done
Living room blinds
De-cobweb downstairs
Upstairs paintwork
Insides of downstairs windows (didn't get done last week)

OTHER JOBS THIS WEEK
Alphabetise final bookcase
Pay window cleaner and Green Thumb - MUST do this

HOUSE
Fix light in cooker hood (not just a duff bulb apparently)
Clean carpets - livingroomdone
Put up extra hooks in utility
Plant remaining summer bulbs
New sealant round bath

Communion cake done pic on profile

Plum that is fab!

THURSDAY
Me and DH up - done
Shower and dressed - done
Get DS up and dressed - done
Spatone + vitamins
Breakfast and tidy kitchen - done + wipe over kitchen - done
Unload dishwasher - done
Fold washing on airer - done
Hang out load from last night - done
Make beds and tidy upstairs - done
Wipe over bathroom - done
Tidy downstairs - done
Put nappies on to wash - done
Attack post pile - done
Hoover and sweep downstairs - done
Dust downstairs - done
Lunch and tidy kitchen
Monkey Music
Friend back here for a cuppa
Plan picnic for tomorrow
Dinner
Clear up
DS bath and bed
Post DS-to-bed tidy
Kitchen clear before bed

CLEANING THIS WEEK
Mop kitchen and hall
Dust downstairs - done
Dust upstairs
Mirrors and glass doors - done
Stairs and bannisters - done
Shower screen - done
Living room blinds
De-cobweb downstairs
Upstairs paintwork
Insides of downstairs windows (didn't get done last week)

OTHER JOBS THIS WEEK
Alphabetise final bookcase
Pay window cleaner and Green Thumb - MUST do this

HOUSE
Fix light in cooker hood (not just a duff bulb apparently)
Clean carpets - livingroomdone
Put up extra hooks in utility
Plant remaining summer bulbs
New sealant round bath

Great cake plum

Haven't done much since my last list, whoops.

Plum - well done, again!!

DS1 starts sch this sept, i still can't believe i am a mum of a soon-to-be-at-schooler!!

Left from Mon!:

• post 1 stamped TQ letter

Thurs:

• all up, dressed & breakfasted DONE
• DS1 to pre-sch DONE
• continue constructing enormous climbing frame!! (handyman came round yesterday and started it, it's huge though and taking ages) DB&SILDoing!!
• collect DS1 DONE
• lunch & tidy kitchen DONE
• DS2 nap DONE
• afternoon activity? more climbing frame MoreDone

prob/handyman coming again later

• boys tea, bath & bed
• DB & SIL leaving at some point Gone
• DH home at some point
• our dinner

Ongoing List:

• contact new dentist & see if we can register; need details of which dentist from DH DoneButTheyWontTakeUsOn
• upload & order online prints Started-Done More
• order door curtain (& rail) for front door - Autumn job really
• clean kitchen cupboard doors Done3More
• put cds onto DH's pc, then they can go into loft with others
• find out about swimming lessons for DS1 - Have Name Of School; HavePhoneNumber
• copy Wasting and think about Christmas; PIL definitely away/Us definitely staying at home!
• sort out holiday in August to Jersey; hire car (+ seats)
• change over to reusables nappies for DS2 in the day DoneOddDays
• my underwear - massive sort out & throw away old bits Started - Bought Some New Bits
• Thank-yous for DS1's birthday DeliverLast2&Post1
• sort out summer clothes for boys DS1DONE GetNextBoxFromLoft
• Loft trip with 3 full boxes (anything else?)
• sort out toys 'too old for DS1',

'too young for DS1 but too old for DS2' & 'too young for DS2' and put away neatly somewhere

• climbing frame!!! Started
• shed shelves arriving this week hopefully

Oh dear, I ran out of steam. I think the cold has moved to my sinuses.

I haven't done much. We went to Range, had lunch, I've done 2 x 15 mins in the kitchen which isn't bad I suppose.
Right, short lists!

Next -

• fold dry washing
• hang up washing
• 15 mins kitchen

Should have all that done before 4.

Wasting - sounds quite a lot to me.

Left from Mon!:

• post 1 stamped TQ letter DONE

Thurs:

• all up, dressed & breakfasted DONE
• DS1 to pre-sch DONE
• continue constructing enormous climbing frame!! (handyman came round yesterday and started it, it's huge though and taking ages) DB&SILDoneLots
• collect DS1 DONE
• lunch & tidy kitchen DONE
• DS2 nap DONE
• afternoon activity? more climbing frame MoreDone

prob/handyman coming again later HereDoing

• round corner for; postbox, cash & dry cleaners DONE

• boys tea, bath & bed
• DB & SIL leaving at some point Gone
• DH home at some point
• our dinner

Ongoing List:

• contact new dentist & see if we can register; need details of which dentist from DH DoneButTheyWontTakeUsOn
• upload & order online prints Started-Done More
• order door curtain (& rail) for front door - Autumn job really
• clean kitchen cupboard doors Done3More
• put cds onto DH's pc, then they can go into loft with others
• find out about swimming lessons for DS1 - Have Name Of School; HavePhoneNumber
• copy Wasting and think about Christmas; PIL definitely away/Us definitely staying at home!
• sort out holiday in August to Jersey; hire car (+ seats)
• my underwear - massive sort out & throw away old bits Started - Bought Some New Bits
• Thank-yous for DS1's birthday DeliverLast2&Post1 Posted1
• sort out summer clothes for boys DS1DONE GetNextBoxFromLoft
• Loft trip with 3 full boxes (anything else?)
• sort out toys 'too old for DS1',

'too young for DS1 but too old for DS2' & 'too young for DS2' and put away neatly somewhere

• climbing frame!!! Started
• shed shelves arriving this week hopefully

Summer Project
SORT OUT SHED!
measure for shelves - DONE
research heavy duty shelves - DONE
buy shelves - DONE
empty shed entirely DONE
sweep out/scare off spiders DH DONE !
throw out rubbish DONE
list loads of crap stuff on Freecycle in case anyone wants it DONE
sort paint pots (only keep needed ones with anything useful left in) DONE
list of colours used in house DONE (put on computer so i don't lose them, lol)
put most stuff back in for now DONE
get pile of old chairs looked at DONE & maybe repaired
wait for new shelves to arrive StillDoing
fill shelves in an orderly way, lol
put everything else back in

• fold dry washing done
• hang up washing done
• 15 mins kitchen done

I think I'm just really mad at myself for forgetting a doctors appointment. things like that put me in a bad mood for ages.

Cake looks great Plum!

I need to start looking at nursery applications too Ali.

Right, next -

• drink coffee and read MN
• take clean washing upstairs and do a minute of tidying up there
• get tea on

Evening all

Both boys making a racket upstairs as usual, even though they were both tired & grumpy this evening

Thurs:

• all up, dressed & breakfasted DONE
• DS1 to pre-sch DONE
• continue constructing enormous climbing frame!! DB&SILDoneLots
• collect DS1 DONE
• lunch & tidy kitchen DONE
• DS2 nap DONE
• afternoon activity? more climbing frame MoreDone

prob/handyman coming again later DoneBackNextWeekToFinish

• round corner for; postbox, cash & dry cleaners DONE
• boys tea, bath & bed DONE
• DB & SIL leaving at some point Gone
• DH home late
• my dinner DONE
• make an anniversary card for DH

Fri:

• Dh up first
• breakfast & tidy up
• all dressed
• DS1 to pre-sch
• DH to work
• HV coming to do a development check on DS2 (10am)
• jobs/tidying/etc
• collect DS1
• lunch & tidy up
• DS2 nap
• afternoon with friends??
• boys tea & bed
• think DH & I will go out for dinner - need to book somewhere & sitter

Ongoing List:

• contact new dentist & see if we can register; Find another one that is taking on NHS patients
• upload & order online prints Started-Done More
• order door curtain (& rail) for front door - Autumn job really
• clean kitchen cupboard doors Done3More
• put cds onto DH's pc, then they can go into loft with others
• make my playlist
• clear my iPhone of music, reload with just my playlist
• find out about swimming lessons for DS1 - Have Name Of School; HavePhoneNumber
• copy Wasting and think about Christmas; PIL definitely away/Us definitely staying at home!
• sort out holiday in August to Jersey; hire car (+ seats)
• my underwear - massive sort out & throw away old bits Started - Bought Some New Bits
• Thank-yous for DS1's birthday Deliver Last 2
• sort out summer clothes for boys DS1DONE GetNextBoxFromLoft
• Loft trip with 3 full boxes (anything else?)
• sort out toys 'too old for DS1',

'too young for DS1 but too old for DS2' & 'too young for DS2' and put away neatly somewhere

• climbing frame!!! Paused until next Tues (just the swing frame to add)

Summer Project
SORT OUT SHED!
measure for shelves - DONE
research heavy duty shelves - DONE
buy shelves - DONE
empty shed entirely - DONE
sweep out/scare off spiders - DH DONE!
throw out rubbish - DONE
list loads of crap stuff on Freecycle in case anyone wants it - DONE
sort paint pots - DONE
list of colours used in house - DONE (put on computer so i don't lose them, lol)
put most stuff back in for now - DONE
get pile of old chairs looked at - DONE & maybe repaired
wait for new shelves to arrive StillDoing
fill shelves in an orderly way, lol
put everything else back in

Morning

I am still taking it easy, but have started doing a bit of housework (simply because otherwise i have to sit and watch everywhere getting messy around me, and it is making me a bit stressed!)

DONE
Get up and dressed
Make our bed
Put a basket of clean washing on our bed to sort later
Put washload on
Have breakfast
DD breakfast

TO DO
Clear up breakfast stuff
Get DD dressed
Chuck DD out into the garden
Pick up toys from sitting room
Shake out throws
Empty dishy
Wipe down kitchen sides
Have a rummage in freezer for tonights dinner
Put some veg plants into a bigger pot?
Hang washing out
Get DH to hoover when he gets back for lunch (take DD into garden/upstairs while it is being done)
Friend over this afternoon?

I know it may look like a big list for someone taking it easy, but pretty much everything is optional, and i have all day to get anything/nothing done, and i need to distract myself from eating crap all day

Morning Alice - do try and take it easy, even if mess is growing around you. At least for a few more weeks

Fri:

• Dh up first DONE
• breakfast & tidy up Doing
• tea in bed with laptop Doing
• all dressed
• DS1 to pre-sch
• DH to work
• HV coming to do a development check on DS2 (10am)
• jobs/tidying/etc
• collect DS1
• lunch & tidy up
• DS2 nap
• afternoon with friends??
• boys tea & bed
• think DH & I will go out for dinner - need to book somewhere & sitter

Ongoing List:

• contact new dentist & see if we can register; Find another one that is taking on NHS patients
• upload & order online prints Started-Done More
• order door curtain (& rail) for front door - Autumn job really
• clean kitchen cupboard doors Done3More
• put cds onto DH's pc, then they can go into loft with others
• make my playlist
• clear my iPhone of music, reload with just my playlist
• find out about swimming lessons for DS1 - Have Name Of School; HavePhoneNumber
• copy Wasting and think about Christmas; PIL definitely away/Us definitely staying at home!
• sort out holiday in August to Jersey; hire car (+ seats)
• my underwear - massive sort out & throw away old bits Started - Bought Some New Bits
• Thank-yous for DS1's birthday Deliver Last 2
• sort out summer clothes for boys DS1DONE GetNextBoxFromLoft
• Loft trip with 3 full boxes (anything else?)
• sort out toys 'too old for DS1',

'too young for DS1 but too old for DS2' & 'too young for DS2' and put away neatly somewhere