Page 18 | White Feminism

Brefugee · 2023-08-22T09:25:38+00:00

suggested from another thread, is this something we should talk about. At the risk of being accused of being a TAAT it isn't that. But on another thread a black MNer said that at a conference she had experienced racist comments from a panel, and she was the only one who pointed it out. And had been the only black person in the room. The reason i brought up White Feminism on that thread was that the poster was instantly dismissed as a potential derailing troll. Which is... well not sure if the person dismissing the poster is white or not, but it was pretty much the very same treatment. Immediately written off as insignificant. I've seen comments on the FWR board before that White Feminism rears its ugly head a lot, and that black mumsnetters don't feel comfortable on the board. I find that shocking. But I'm not black or of any other minority. I'm a white 2nd waver - and i hope that i don't make racist comments or dismiss black women's experiences. I do hope that if i did, they would point that out to me. (and I'd be sorry they have to do that work) So - should we talk about this? I do think it causes rifts where we should have bridges.

Parabellum · 27/08/2023 21:50

"I don’t think you can ‘expunge the hate crime’ if you’re unsure of what the actual criminal offence was."

Her lies the big, bloody elephant.
NOWHERE, on the face of ANY BILL, is there
a definition of a"hate crime".
As such, there can be NO CLEAR guidance to police
service in this country, on WHAT constitutes 'hate', less bloody "hate crime".
As such, your 'expunge or die' instruction is both
moot and stupid.
I've been there for 2 years - since the incident-
All I've heard is "we've never had such a circumstance".
Wait a bit longer.

Bex5490 · 27/08/2023 21:53

But you can’t be arrested for ‘hate crime.’ You have to have been arrested for something that constitutes a crime which they categorised as a hate crime. If you were in fact arrested and charged as you have said.

HRTQueen · 27/08/2023 22:04

I have read a number of racist comments on here over the years, the ignorance to other cultures is astounding at times. I can remember the threads about Afganistan and the belief that we shared a similar fight to the women there as we are dealing with some tans woman demanding to use our spaces. What planet are some posters on why do they always need to feel they are victims too

and of course there is the Karen debate black and brown woman state why they use this term and the are called stupid, it’s demanded of them they do not use it as it’s sexist, how do they know said women is being racist if not used racist language but no concern as to why they have used this term

all women face sexism but being white and especially middle/upper class you are so extremely privileged let’s ffs stop the pretence that isn’t the case. Life is easier Life has less obstacles and that just isn’t fair. I’m mixed heritage I don’t face what my cousins have to I don’t have to explain myself or deal with fake kindness or racism obvious or underhand

feminism should be to support all women not project our ideals and decide to filter out what doesn’t suit our narrative we are far from that unfortunately

Parabellum · 27/08/2023 22:05

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Rummikub · 27/08/2023 22:08

I don’t think i understand what’s happening anymore 🤷🏽‍♀️

Bex5490 · 27/08/2023 22:09

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

😂😂😂😂 Maybe the charge was verbal assault?

Insommmmnia · 27/08/2023 22:10

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Is this a general message to everyone on the thread or was there someone specific you wanted to call inadequate and illiterate?

Parabellum · 27/08/2023 22:10

You truly are nonsense.
Read what you've WRITTEN yourself.
LOGIC.

Bex5490 · 27/08/2023 22:11

HRTQueen · 27/08/2023 22:04

I have read a number of racist comments on here over the years, the ignorance to other cultures is astounding at times. I can remember the threads about Afganistan and the belief that we shared a similar fight to the women there as we are dealing with some tans woman demanding to use our spaces. What planet are some posters on why do they always need to feel they are victims too

and of course there is the Karen debate black and brown woman state why they use this term and the are called stupid, it’s demanded of them they do not use it as it’s sexist, how do they know said women is being racist if not used racist language but no concern as to why they have used this term

all women face sexism but being white and especially middle/upper class you are so extremely privileged let’s ffs stop the pretence that isn’t the case. Life is easier Life has less obstacles and that just isn’t fair. I’m mixed heritage I don’t face what my cousins have to I don’t have to explain myself or deal with fake kindness or racism obvious or underhand

feminism should be to support all women not project our ideals and decide to filter out what doesn’t suit our narrative we are far from that unfortunately

Amen 🙌🏽

Bex5490 · 27/08/2023 22:18

Parabellum · 27/08/2023 22:10

You truly are nonsense.
Read what you've WRITTEN yourself.
LOGIC.

Or possibly a charge of falsifying information? 😂😂😂

Parabellum · 27/08/2023 22:42

Clearly, you can!
Be arrested in your own effing home.
What part of reality does not get through
to you?
I've been burgled twice since 2015!
What part of "grey Police Guidelines"
don't you understand?
If I only had 1/2 Amendment here and now -
I would bloody Jesus and all.

ReginaRegina · 27/08/2023 22:49

A... SWAT team. 🤔

Insommmmnia · 27/08/2023 23:10

Parabellum · 27/08/2023 22:42

Clearly, you can!
Be arrested in your own effing home.
What part of reality does not get through
to you?
I've been burgled twice since 2015!
What part of "grey Police Guidelines"
don't you understand?
If I only had 1/2 Amendment here and now -
I would bloody Jesus and all.

So you would shoot the SWAT team?

Bex5490 · 27/08/2023 23:10

Ok. So to sum up your story before bed…wokeness and identity politics have created a situation where white people are unfairly criminalised by the police. Your example is when you tried to save your black neighbour but ended up getting arrested for a public order offence (public meaning outside) while inside your house. They thought it was so serious that they knocked your door down with a SWAT team, but then gave you a victim questionnaire because they didn’t know who was telling the truth out of you and the woman you’re saying was telling them the same story as you. You’re not really sure what the offence was but you now have a criminal record because of it.

Get the F outttta here! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Insommmmnia · 27/08/2023 23:10

Parabellum · 27/08/2023 22:42

Clearly, you can!
Be arrested in your own effing home.
What part of reality does not get through
to you?
I've been burgled twice since 2015!
What part of "grey Police Guidelines"
don't you understand?
If I only had 1/2 Amendment here and now -
I would bloody Jesus and all.

So you would shoot the SWAT team?

Parabellum · 27/08/2023 23:21

You need to read MORE.
By reading/learning MORE, you may learn something.
I always (since they've moved in) was a Big friend of
Blossom. (She did not try to say anything but good
things about his partner, Miles). Things were not good.
As in - physical, verbal violence against her.

7 years passed, she had 2 kitties - we sort of had!

HRTQueen · 27/08/2023 23:24

I’m confused by the incident unless the police turned up at the wrong place (which they have been known to do) to arrange a team to raid a property or a team such as tsg can take hours if not days (experience this at work fairly often)

you seem a bit confused by the incident

Parabellum · 27/08/2023 23:25

You're not really playing with the full deck, are you?
Your arguments are not only inane, they're
utterly pointless & moot.

Parabellum · 27/08/2023 23:27

Could you please, read the post?
MY god, how difficult is that?

Insommmmnia · 27/08/2023 23:32

Parabellum · 27/08/2023 23:27

Could you please, read the post?
MY god, how difficult is that?

honestly, incredibly difficult

You don't quote who you are replying to, your sentences are jumbled and your posts are hard to follow

I don't normally pick apart peoples posts because not everyone posting on here is first language English, and others are dyslexic etc but if you are going to be so rude about people's posts then you might try and make yours make a little more sense first

Insommmmnia · 27/08/2023 23:33

Parabellum · 27/08/2023 23:27

Could you please, read the post?
MY god, how difficult is that?

honestly, incredibly difficult

You don't quote who you are replying to, your sentences are jumbled and your posts are hard to follow

I don't normally pick apart peoples posts because not everyone posting on here is first language English, and others are dyslexic etc but if you are going to be so rude about people's posts then you might try and make yours make a little more sense first

Parabellum · 27/08/2023 23:35

It looks like you WERE THERE.
Not me.
Hence, you know everything there's
to know about the matter.
Just as well.
Probably the same type of expertise as in, say, Ottoman Empire Slave Trade?
Starting, let's say, circa about 780?
As in Arabic/Muslim conquest of Africa ?

HRTQueen · 27/08/2023 23:36

I’m not going to pick apart your posts mine often have mistakes in as I post before reading them over

to me they are confusing and you seem confused about the whole incident yourself

Parabellum · 27/08/2023 23:45

Plain simple:
she pounded on my door, I said Oh god,
come in, come in, gave her tea, a slice of pizza, 10-15 minutes ; later I am arrested.
I am a racist, a fascist...
Everything, she's crying, saying, no...
I'm crying, asking what's happened.
What we both did not know it was HIM who
called the police to report on me - as a White
supremacist, etc.

Parabellum · 27/08/2023 23:50

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.