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Westministenders: Reployed back to No Deal Planning

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RedToothBrush · 18/05/2020 22:52

Now Covid-19 is over (yeah I know right) lots of civil servants who were switched from brexit no deal planning to covid-19 planning have been switched back to their original remit.

For some reason this doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.

We've also seen yet another doubling down on the EU not being flexible and how they need to make a deal. And lots of rhetoric about being serious about no transiton planning.

Remember we have something of a deadline looming at the end of next month.

So before we are even out of this crisis, the government have lost interest. Today's press conference was an eye opener - Van Tam openly said that the time taken to get test results was too long and wasn't good enough yet and meant track and trace wasnt still operational despite it being such a crucial factor in being able to go into the next phase as planned on 1st June.

Another deadline we won't make - the Manchester Nightgale still has patients and the local authorities in the NW are going mental. So the government is playing more silly buggers over blame and villianising the evil workshy teachers. Noting the government guidance for teachers on how to teacher children at home says fuck all and the guidance on reopening schools makes a Theresa May dog ate my homework style document look positively well thought out, in terms of practicality. (Not even going to touch on the question of whether its safe - the whether its workable one is more important).

I guess that means things are getting back to normal at least.

A recession looms, but workers rights are now fair game and fully in the government cross hairs - as we see from a lack of PPE for the 'heroes' and the attacks on the teachers. As well as the carers who were sold down river. That'll be the ununionised carers...

Taking back control.

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BigChocFrenzy · 24/05/2020 07:50

Britain Electss@britainelects*

On whether Dominic Cummings should or should not resign from his job as advisor to the Prime Minister:

Should resign: 52%
Should not resign: 28%

via @YouGov, 23 May

Westministenders: Reployed back to No Deal Planning
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Westministenders: Reployed back to No Deal Planning
BigChocFrenzy · 24/05/2020 07:58

Revealed: UK’s lockdown dithering led to worst death toll in Europe

This cockup isn't news, but the Insight team have quantified the cost in lives
AND a useful reminder why the UK is staying in lockdown so long

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/revealed-uk-s-lockdown-dithering-led-to-worst-death-toll-in-europe-w86pt3hh5

Coronavirus infections across Britain rocketed from an estimated 200,000 to 1.5 million in the nine days before lockdown while the prime minister agonised over how and when to act.

An investigation has found that Boris Johnson’s delay in introducing measures to combat the virus in those pivotal nine days of March
meant that the UK had more infections when it went into lockdown than Italy, Spain, Germany and France when they took the same drastic action.

The findings are likely to explain why Britain eventually suffered a greater death toll than other European countries

  • now standing at 36,675 - and why it is taking the UK longer to come out of lockdown than some of its neighbours.
Piggywaspushed · 24/05/2020 07:58

I don't think he has been staying there : I suspect Durham is his weekend second home.

Piggywaspushed · 24/05/2020 07:58

Or has been!

BigChocFrenzy · 24/05/2020 07:59

He's commuting between main home and weekend 2nd home

BigChocFrenzy · 24/05/2020 08:09

One would expect BJ to consider visiting a lover as a better reason than finding childcare

Lewis Goodall@lewisgoodall (BBC Newsnight)

Is clear from ministers/ MPs defending him that PM is determined to keep DC and will spend considerable political capital in the process.

Political cost to that but maybe public health one too.
Might be harder for No 10 to deliver new directives on lockdown while he's in post < 🤦🏻‍♀️ >

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Piggywaspushed · 24/05/2020 08:12

New date of 10 May also a Sunday.

Nice to know they are all so good with their work life balance.

georgedawes · 24/05/2020 08:12

So many sightings on twitter prior to this story coming out, it's pretty obvious it's his second home and he's there a lot. I presume Boris knows too.

Piggywaspushed · 24/05/2020 08:14

The gov and various others will try to say the two 10 May tweeters are 'left wing activists'. Their tweets do suggest Labour voting but are hardly the Twitter feeds of political activists : mostly about music and football...

Mistigri · 24/05/2020 08:34

My friend in Durham posted yesterday about Cummings' parents house being at the end of her road.

The very best thing about this story is that the place is called (and she swears she isn't making this up, but I haven't checked) .... drum roll ....

Cock of the North

Grin
ClashCityRocker · 24/05/2020 08:40

The whole DC affair has been handled appallingly.

Even if they'd resoundingly condemned him for his actions but stopped short of sacking him, it would have been something...

Instead they have introduced a whole new swathe of grey areas into what was already a pretty murky situation.

I think I could use excuses with as much validity as his to justify seeing pretty much 80% of my usual social circle.

mrslaughan · 24/05/2020 08:57

@georgiedawes he must have gone backwards and forwards.... as he was sighted in London , then Durham, then London, then Durham, then London....

UltimateFoole · 24/05/2020 09:14

This is a jaw-dropping piece from Steve Baker calling for yer man DC to go.

Yes - Steve Baker ex-chair of the ERG and on the campaign committee at Vote Leave - that Steve Baker.

Here's a taste of what he writes about the Cumm-quat:

"We must have no more “hollow men” leaning together with heads filled with straw, whispering together the same vapid tropes handed to them by a strongman to whom they have sworn fealty. Neither can we have in backroom power a dominant figure who regards accountability with contempt. One who venerates science beyond reason and whose response to every serious problem is, metaphorically, to drag someone into the public square and chop off their head."

Piggywaspushed · 24/05/2020 09:15

Why is 10 May not making news?

That seems odd, given its on Twitter,

Mistigri · 24/05/2020 09:17

I may be revising my position on Cummings going.

He may not quite be toast yet but I can smell something burning.

Honestly it's too early for this much popcorn, I'm going to get a bad case of indigestion.

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 24/05/2020 09:22

Latest word from Shapps on Sky is that DC's movements are a matter of national security and he cannot discuss the details.

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 24/05/2020 09:24

Trams. Please can we talk about trams, asks Shapps.

Lovely Trams

prettybird · 24/05/2020 09:25

That is probably might be why the Labour leadership is not calling yet for Cummings sacking resignation. Too much damage still to extract Wink

It's either that or they have a few errant members of their own party who they know have breached lockdown guidelines Hmm

I suspect the former Grin

RedToothBrush · 24/05/2020 09:26

Beth Rigby @bethrigby
Baker: Secretaries of State were trying to save Dom y’day and it isn’t going to work because the media aren’t going to let it go because of the way they’ve been sneered at.... it’s the way Dominic conducts his politics

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MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 24/05/2020 09:27

Spot on Prettybird.

Churchill received hundreds of proposals to bump off Adolf and turned them all down because he was the Allies' greatest asset.

RedToothBrush · 24/05/2020 09:27

Baker says it's media with a grudge. Pretty obvious (it's been said before many times) Cummings has plenty of enemies within the Tory party who hate him and want him out for the way he's treated them.

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RedToothBrush · 24/05/2020 09:29

And from a mirror journalist

Fleetstreetfox @fleetstreetfox
They’re not going to let it go because of the level of righteous public anger.

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RedToothBrush · 24/05/2020 09:32

Darran Marshall @darrenmarshall
Grant Shappe struggling to answer @SophyRidgeSky’s questions about Dominic Cummings’ travel.

*He was provided with the questions yesterday.

That's a BBC politics NI producer.

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RedToothBrush · 24/05/2020 09:33

Joe Pike @joepike
NEW: No 10 respond to latest Cummings allegations.

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FrankieStein402 · 24/05/2020 09:34

DC's movements are a matter of national security
So did he have a police escort up and down?

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