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Westministenders: Reployed back to No Deal Planning

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RedToothBrush · 18/05/2020 22:52

Now Covid-19 is over (yeah I know right) lots of civil servants who were switched from brexit no deal planning to covid-19 planning have been switched back to their original remit.

For some reason this doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.

We've also seen yet another doubling down on the EU not being flexible and how they need to make a deal. And lots of rhetoric about being serious about no transiton planning.

Remember we have something of a deadline looming at the end of next month.

So before we are even out of this crisis, the government have lost interest. Today's press conference was an eye opener - Van Tam openly said that the time taken to get test results was too long and wasn't good enough yet and meant track and trace wasnt still operational despite it being such a crucial factor in being able to go into the next phase as planned on 1st June.

Another deadline we won't make - the Manchester Nightgale still has patients and the local authorities in the NW are going mental. So the government is playing more silly buggers over blame and villianising the evil workshy teachers. Noting the government guidance for teachers on how to teacher children at home says fuck all and the guidance on reopening schools makes a Theresa May dog ate my homework style document look positively well thought out, in terms of practicality. (Not even going to touch on the question of whether its safe - the whether its workable one is more important).

I guess that means things are getting back to normal at least.

A recession looms, but workers rights are now fair game and fully in the government cross hairs - as we see from a lack of PPE for the 'heroes' and the attacks on the teachers. As well as the carers who were sold down river. That'll be the ununionised carers...

Taking back control.

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HoneysuckIejasmine · 23/05/2020 21:52

The hypocrisy is staggering. I don't think he'll go but I would love to be wrong.

BigChocFrenzy · 23/05/2020 21:58

Those legs should have stayed at home

ListeningQuietly · 23/05/2020 21:59

Years ago I caught Noro at a family event.
DH who was OK left for work at 5am
by 7am I was head down in the toilet
I remember getting my kids organised, blagging money off a fellow school mum by text to buy them school dinners that day and listening that they got the bus OK
while alternating ends on the bog
never in a million years would it have occurred to me to travel or to spread that further

either the Cummings family were never ill with anything
or they are liars
or both

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 23/05/2020 22:10

Another scoop dropped - Cummings made a second trip. Can't wait to see how they try to excuse that one. And they will.

HoneysuckIejasmine · 23/05/2020 22:14

I'm most interested in what the right wing press so, the majority of it put on their front pages tomorrow.

ListeningQuietly · 23/05/2020 22:29

I've put this on all the Cummings threads tonight but
PLEASE
If you are angry, email your MP.
Even if they are Chris Chope, they HAVE to take account of elector correspondence except Julian Lewis of course.
My MP is a sweetie and he admits that one email is assumed to represent 1000 voters
so ten emails on a 9800 majority is a scary thing
and yes its a long time till the next election
but making them wary is worth it
YOU have nothing to lose
THEY have everything to lose

JeSuisPoulet · 23/05/2020 22:38

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DarkenedTimes · 23/05/2020 22:45

No he didn't - it's a good job the next general election is 4 or 5 years away.

Hi all, delurking temporarily to share my —desperate last hope— prediction. This excuse for a government will carry on making a total cock up of covid and Brexit both, with incompetencies increasingly piled up until finally there is a last straw round about October. After a short few weeks of recriminations and the worst kind of politicking in history we’ll be offered the polls again! Starmer will be seeing in the new year as PM over a hopelessly divided country with unrest everywhere. We’ll be begging the EU’s help, will agree to everything they ask for to give us a soft Brexit and still be trying to handle our domestic issues. It’ll take the rest of next year to start reestablishing order.
Perhaps not quite like that, but I do not believe this government will last 4-5 years.

DarkenedTimes · 23/05/2020 22:45

I meant to say, thanks for all the interesting discussions on here.

JeSuisPoulet · 23/05/2020 22:48

Sadly I think that is what many American's thought with Trump, but I like your optimism!

ListeningQuietly · 23/05/2020 22:51

poulet
Change.org is pissing in the wind
only parliament.gov gets debated

email your MP
get everybody you know to do the same

FrankieStein402 · 23/05/2020 22:53

You can't do Central london/Durham in 4hrs. OK the roads ought to have been very clear - but there are enough 50mph stretches and A roads /roundabouts to make it closer to 5.

If you then add in a 4yr old I'd expect to have to stop at least twice - and that's assuming they sleep for an hour or two. So unless they were being chauffered in a limo with loo and nanny I'd punt for 5-6hrs.

(I often used to route through Barnard Castle as the traffic to get to the a1 was unpredictable. With a 4yr old, wanting a wee 20mins after starting, is exactly why being seen there isn't unlikely - if you're lucky you might get 2hrs before the next wee stop but more likely two services;) )

Thats a long way of saying they'll have used at least two if not three stops on the way up and again on the way back.

The timeline doesn't actually give him 10 days in bed does it? The suspicion that it was a long planned party with covid being used as the excuse for being out of sight must have some credibility.

Also travelling up and down again a week later, for an overnight, if he did, really does point to not having been very ill - unless there were very strong reasons that haven't surfaced yet.

JeSuisPoulet · 23/05/2020 23:17

Thanks Listening. Grasping at straws perhaps!

Peregrina · 23/05/2020 23:19

Being retired, Covid-19 hasn't caused us the grief that others have had, but it has stopped the family visiting, and it stopped us going to the funeral of a family friend who died recently. But what angers me is potentially all the small firms going out of business because of the lockdown. And apparently, it was all for nothing. Lockdown was just an idea you could obey or not.

And it hasn't even stemmed the tide of Covid related deaths.

SwedishEdith · 23/05/2020 23:27

I don't believe either of them were ever ill.

Peregrina · 23/05/2020 23:27

With the news that Cummings went back to Durham after returning to London, Johnson's Cabinet apologists have made total fools of themselves. Not that it matters; with the huge majority Johnson has, they can continue to dissemble and lie.

TatianaBis · 24/05/2020 00:21

Do you think when we wake up in the morning he will be gone? It would be like Christmas. Boo Bad Santa.

TheABC · 24/05/2020 00:31

The longer Johnson keeps Cummings at this stage, the more it dents his ability to lead.

Never mind the rest of the UK; just how much support can he count on from the cabinet and party when he wheels them out for repeated public humiliation?

The Tory party are very good at internal bloodsports. It's muted at the moment with MPs at home; what can we expect when they go back?

georgedawes · 24/05/2020 00:51

Twitter is full of other reports of him being in Durham in May. I think it's looking much more likely now that his family have been in Durham for the whole period and have only just come back to London.

HauntedHats · 24/05/2020 01:22

I don't believe they were ill either.

RedToothBrush · 24/05/2020 03:44

The longer Johnson keeps Cummings at this stage, the more it dents his ability to lead.

Johnson can't do it with out Cummings and that's why he won't let him resign. Johnson can't lead full stop. He delegates too much.

He hides in freezers when it gets difficult.

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downtheplug · 24/05/2020 05:23

@georgedawes I can't work Twitter, can you link please?

Sostenueto · 24/05/2020 07:08

Thanks old lace and dontcallmemeen💐💐

BigChocFrenzy · 24/05/2020 07:45

These are just the reported jaunts:

Westministenders: Reployed back to No Deal Planning