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Westminstenders: Another day of fear and toil

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RedToothBrush · 21/10/2019 22:03

In a move that surprised no one paying attention, Bercow refused to let Johnson put the WA back to the house today after it had already been presented to the house on Saturday.

This move upset the government but was entirely predictable.

This means that the only way the deal can move forward is through the WA's implementation bill (the WAB). It was published for the first time tonight (all 100 pages of it) and it will be presented to the house tomorrow.

In a lightning fast timetable parliament will be asked to scruntise it. This of course is reckless in the extreme for such an important piece of legislation. The speed at which it is being forced through is the thing that looks most likely to ruffle feathers.

The government is still trying to pretend it can make the 31st October deadline and leave by then. The reality is there isn't enough time for parliament to pass the necessary legislation and the EU will need to also ratify the deal, which in a best case scenario won't happen until next week with an extraordinary EU meeting to do so. This is much more likely to occur the week after at the earliest.

The reality is the EU need an extension themselves which is why we are very likely to get at least a short technical one and remain in the EU beyond next Thursday. It's in the UK and EU's interest if we do want to get a deal done.

Everything that Johnson does though is about optics ahead of a GE. It has to play it all as if he has been prevented from leaving as he promised.

We wait to see the pieces of a deal fall into place. It is in progress now finally it seems. For better or worse.

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Dontlickthetrolley · 22/10/2019 18:52

And can I say Fan Fucking Tastic to all you Fucking fabulous posters who keep the rest of us up to date with the current shit storm. I've only been reading these posts since January and that is the first fucking time I have seen Mumsnet post on this fucking thread. Excellent work ladies and gents

shit wanker fuck fuck fuck Grin

mrslaughan · 22/10/2019 18:52

Let's hope we can make that cunt cry again so his Daddy tells the nation off......#bunch of fuckingcunts

tobee · 22/10/2019 18:53

Now I'm going to have "Atmosphere" going round my head all evening fluffy

thecatfromjapan · 22/10/2019 18:54

If you can, have a listen to Caroline Lucas' speech.

(How I wish she was Leader of Labour.)

Hoooo · 22/10/2019 18:54

I've always had a thing for Starmer.

I bet he'd be filthy 😍😛

Hoooo · 22/10/2019 18:54

Oh, yeah, bercow too.
Yum yum

Dontlickthetrolley · 22/10/2019 18:55

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TheMShip · 22/10/2019 18:55

Of interest: signatories to the CU amendment:

Chris Leslie
Anna Soubry
Ken Clarke
Helen Goodman
Stewart Hosie
Norman Lamb
Lucy Powell
Jack Dromey
Liam Byrne
Bill Esterson
Ruth George
Yvette Cooper
Ruth Smeeth
Debbie Abrahams
Seema Malhotra
Stephen Kinnock
Gloria de Piero
Gareth Snell
Justin Madders
Daniel Zeichner
Melanie Onn
Nick Boles
Lisa Nandy
Heidi Allen (said she signed it on Twitter, not on the image of the amendment I saw)

I have highlighted the Labour Leavers.

NoWordForFluffy · 22/10/2019 18:55

Oh shit. I'm very fucking sorry, tobee. That wasn't my intention!

Maybe we need to be using thundercunt to describe BoZo too? I think he fits the bloody description. Way better than wanker.

barnun · 22/10/2019 18:56

Peter Kyle's all right but somehow I don't think I'd be in with a chance Grin

Bercow did get all emotional when he said his children's names, that was sweet.

Hoooo · 22/10/2019 18:56

Oh ffs tobee!!!

NoWordForFluffy · 22/10/2019 18:57

Ah. Better picture, Dontlick! 😂

flouncyfanny · 22/10/2019 18:57

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NoWordForFluffy · 22/10/2019 18:58

That's an interesting list, MShip. 🤔🤔

Please can we have a vote now?!

barnun · 22/10/2019 18:59

dontlick who's that in the bottom right of the photo you posted Confused

prettybird · 22/10/2019 18:59

I've developed a "posh boy" crush on Dominic Grieve Blush

But I've also developed a thing for Bercow GrinBlush

TheMShip · 22/10/2019 18:59

Fluffy I'm embarrassed to say I don't recognize all the names (how many MPs are there again???) but there are some important ones on there.

When is division for the programme motion expected?

barnun · 22/10/2019 19:00

I'd quite like Kier and Mr Speaker Grin for dinner obvs, you filthy minded lot!

Can't help thinking that Bercow would dominate the conversation GrinGrin

OhYouBadBadKitten · 22/10/2019 19:00

division.
yikes.

PotterHead1985 · 22/10/2019 19:00

Devision

flouncyfanny · 22/10/2019 19:00

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Dontlickthetrolley · 22/10/2019 19:01

@barnum yes spotted that, will get HQ to delete and post another pic Halloween Blush

Hoooo · 22/10/2019 19:01

He can dominate me as much as he likes...
Grin

TheMShip · 22/10/2019 19:02

This is for 2nd reading? I can't follow properly, am trying to watch a keynote conference talk at the same time .... fascinating stuff on bias in data science and predictive analytics. DGR you'd love this shit.

NoWordForFluffy · 22/10/2019 19:02

Ooooooooorrrrrdeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrr!

My 6yo DD just asked me why we have to Brexit. I just said I don't know (too late at night - for her! - for that discussion!).