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Westminstenders: Another day of fear and toil

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RedToothBrush · 21/10/2019 22:03

In a move that surprised no one paying attention, Bercow refused to let Johnson put the WA back to the house today after it had already been presented to the house on Saturday.

This move upset the government but was entirely predictable.

This means that the only way the deal can move forward is through the WA's implementation bill (the WAB). It was published for the first time tonight (all 100 pages of it) and it will be presented to the house tomorrow.

In a lightning fast timetable parliament will be asked to scruntise it. This of course is reckless in the extreme for such an important piece of legislation. The speed at which it is being forced through is the thing that looks most likely to ruffle feathers.

The government is still trying to pretend it can make the 31st October deadline and leave by then. The reality is there isn't enough time for parliament to pass the necessary legislation and the EU will need to also ratify the deal, which in a best case scenario won't happen until next week with an extraordinary EU meeting to do so. This is much more likely to occur the week after at the earliest.

The reality is the EU need an extension themselves which is why we are very likely to get at least a short technical one and remain in the EU beyond next Thursday. It's in the UK and EU's interest if we do want to get a deal done.

Everything that Johnson does though is about optics ahead of a GE. It has to play it all as if he has been prevented from leaving as he promised.

We wait to see the pieces of a deal fall into place. It is in progress now finally it seems. For better or worse.

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BestIsWest · 22/10/2019 18:09

Pmk

barnun · 22/10/2019 18:10

and get our fish back, he misses good fish

We ate it all, that's the end of that.

derxa · 22/10/2019 18:13

My DH would be roundly welcomed on this board. He's looking forward to Boris's demise in a ditch. He'll never vote Tory ever again. Whereas I've gone the other way a bit I just want some sort of deal for the sake of the sheep industry. By some miracle if we revoke A50 then hurrah!

Outsomnia · 22/10/2019 18:14

Just wondered how any Bill could be fast tracked like this, given it has so many possible repercussions for generations to come. But I suppose we are at the end game now.

Would the Lords have a veto? clutching at a weak straw or two now!

I don't think they have a call on the Programme vote though, not sure. But maybe on the substance of the Bill after Committee Stage.

NoWordForFluffy · 22/10/2019 18:18

Bravo, pretty! Rather fucking spectacular effort!

youkiddingme · 22/10/2019 18:19

But Boris will sort it out some how barnun
Actually I bet if my hubby were in a position to say to BJ, 'what about my cod n chips' BJ would mumble some kind of assurance to him... maybe GM Cod which our Nation would naturally be world leaders in producing, thought the technology would be overseen by our new buddies in the USA and their corporate management teams.
Wheras Corbyn would promise to reinstate the fishing fleet, nationalise it, and subsidise a cod-breeding programme.

PotterHead1985 · 22/10/2019 18:20

Where can I buy a bercow t-shirt??

BigChocFrenzy · 22/10/2019 18:21

That's amazing, pigeon 😂
I hope BJ & JRM tasted better than the originals probably do !

thecatfromjapan · 22/10/2019 18:22

yourekiddingme Our payment to the EU is going to go up when we leave ...

I don't envy you listening to his take on that. 💐

Hello Maniaca. Great chart.

For my sins, I'm going to go and do some volunteering at the PV campaign tomorrow.

Apparently, Ian Lavery (Labour) is on manoeuvres against it. so, it's a forlorn hope - but I feel I have to try.

tobee · 22/10/2019 18:22

So "mess" is a swear word now!?!? Lol! Grin

BercowsFlyingFlamingo · 22/10/2019 18:24

@PotterHead1985

www.redbubble.com/shop/Bercow?ref=search_box

PotterHead1985 · 22/10/2019 18:26

@tobee I saw that 😂

@BercowsFlyingFlamingo ooh thanks. Imma get the Mammy one for Christmas. She'll be delighted.

AutumnCrow · 22/10/2019 18:26

My OH voted Leave and was embarrassed about it quite quickly, god love him. I think it was a protest vote in part, but I think something else, some other part of the narrative, also ticked a box for him - if memory serves there was a mention of European bureaucrats.

He's actually a fervent Remainer now and despises Johnson for all the lies, and quite admires Tusk, Barnier et al for their patience and intelligence. The penny dropped one day when he realised he had been a victim of propaganda, like some sap from The Thick Of It.

It has been really difficult for us to talk about at times.

EllebellyBeeblebrox · 22/10/2019 18:27

Late placemark, loving the Bercow T-shirt. I know I'm a freak but he's on my "weird but I definitely would" list.

BigChocFrenzy · 22/10/2019 18:27

I'm probably embarassing myself for not twigging something, but at 63 I no longer care !

@ManiacalMumsnet: why is "Mess" a swearword ? Hmm

ListeningQuietly · 22/10/2019 18:27

Clearly according to the data on MNHQ
we need to clarify that Bozo is a Fucking Wanker whose Mess will Fuck the Shit out of the whole country
Grin

Peregrina · 22/10/2019 18:27

I have asked for a spider broach for Christmas.

barnun · 22/10/2019 18:29

he's on my "weird but I definitely would" list Grin

To be fair, the competition in Parliament isn't up to much.

ContinuityError · 22/10/2019 18:29

Bloody shit fuck, what a fucking bollocks of a mess that crap wanker is making.

Do I win £5?

EllebellyBeeblebrox · 22/10/2019 18:29

Also why is cunt not on the pretty graph?

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 22/10/2019 18:29

I sincerely hope the use of bloody is fucking well down to me and the shit I post Grin

JustAnotherPoster00 · 22/10/2019 18:30

Channel 4 News
@Channel4News
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2h
“The Prime Minister is trying to blindside this Parliament to force this deal through.”

Jeremy Corbyn says Boris Johnson’s proposal for three days of debate on his Brexit plans is an “abuse of parliament.”

Peregrina · 22/10/2019 18:31

My DH said he voted Remain. He seems to have turned since. We had an argument the other night about the NHS being sold off.
The conversation went:
"The EU didn't stop us selling off the NHS."
"You know the NHS is nothing to do with the EU. Why do you think a party which is already privatising the NHS is going to have a sudden change of heart?"
Silence.

thecatfromjapan · 22/10/2019 18:31

Autumn That's really sad. 💐

AutumnCrow · 22/10/2019 18:32

I'd love a pissed night out with Anna Soubry.