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Westminstenders: For Whom the Bell Tolls

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RedToothBrush · 01/04/2019 22:59

Although another round of Indicative Votes is scheduled, arguably the chance for a soft Brexit has gone for two reasons.

Parliament was unable to show a majority because those on the opposition benches were too busy saying 'I want this but only on these terms' or still being too unwilling to compromise. Thus the opportunity and point for a third round starts to look weak.

The second is that Tory MPs were resolute in an opposition to a soft Brexit.

Unless May decides to be the next Robert Peel and go for a soft Brexit on the back of opposition vote its not going to happen.

This leaves May's deal as it stands or no deal.

May seems to have actually lost a few supporters of her deal since Friday, and given the performance of the opposition tonight and the prospect of round 3 of indicative votes they will still be unwilling to go for May's deal.

Which leaves no deal.

There is talk of a managed no deal. There is no such thing. The EU plan for that is essentially to push us into the deal in order to get a trading relationship.

And that will push us closer to the us. Which is what many torys want. And what polling seems to suggest they will have surprising support for.

Sorry folks but it don't look great tonight.

The opposition benches may look back on tonight and think they screwed it. I hope I'm wrong. But I fear tonight might have sealed our fate.

Tomorrow may has a 5hr cabinet. And a secret document dmfor the cabinet to study first.

It's going to get bumpy from here on in...

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 02/04/2019 18:11

Well it was short anyhow.

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 02/04/2019 18:11

So she still wants her fucking WA.
Has she asked Jeremy Corbyn?

CordeliaEarhart · 02/04/2019 18:12

She's trying to tag JC with the blame.

PickleSarnie · 02/04/2019 18:12

Perhaps this is the announcement?

Westminstenders: For Whom the Bell Tolls
AutumnCrow · 02/04/2019 18:12

I feel insulted by that.

Lisette1940 · 02/04/2019 18:12

Seven hours of cabinet meeting for this.

BercowsSilkTie · 02/04/2019 18:12

@BestIsWest I think @MaudBaileysGreenTurban has it @MaudBaileysGreenTurban has it! (Said in Bercow voice)

horseshit · 02/04/2019 18:12

It’ll be interesting to see if Corbyn sticks by Labour policy and makes any deal dependent on a referendum.

user1471429825 · 02/04/2019 18:13

Hmmm taking Corbyn down with her. Spread the blame.

DarlingNikita · 02/04/2019 18:13

So she still wants her fucking WA.
I know. Fuck's sake, Theresa, let it go!

prettybird · 02/04/2019 18:13

Mockers - that's exactly what dh just said: that she's just trying to manoeuvre to ensure that Labour get the blame Hmm

MarshaBradyo · 02/04/2019 18:13

I didn’t mind it, tone was better than last time

I felt relief but maybe I’m being too optimistic

BestIsWest · 02/04/2019 18:13

So cCorbyn must agree to my deal or it’s his fault?

Sarahlou63 · 02/04/2019 18:13

Sounds very much like the clank of a can being kicked down Downing Street.

NoWordForFluffy · 02/04/2019 18:13

Imagine how the cabinet must feel being locked up with her for that long.

She's never heard of the word compromise, has she?

Or the saying flogging a dead horse.

tobee · 02/04/2019 18:13

Interesting to see if/what there is a cabinet fallout from this.

Peregrina · 02/04/2019 18:14

I get the impression that she has to have the WA or negotiations are off the table.

Amid all the stock phrases and blaming and buck passing, was there anything of substance in her statement, any grains of information? Asking for nuggets would be too much.

Somerville · 02/04/2019 18:14

I'm enjoying Beth Rigby describing TM's announcment in between yelling questions at exiting cabinet ministers.

MockerstheFeManist · 02/04/2019 18:14

This is Corbyn's "Something is actually happening, Reg" moment.

What he needs to say is: Sod Off, You're the govt, you take responsibility for this turdfest. Come up with something or General Election Now.

67chevvyimpala · 02/04/2019 18:14

Er....what!???

DarlingNikita · 02/04/2019 18:14

Sounds very much like the clank of a can being kicked down Downing Street.

What, ANOTHER one? Does she not know how to read a calendar? We haven't got fucking time.

MaudBaileysGreenTurban · 02/04/2019 18:14

Grin BercowsSilkTie

I found myself practising my best Bercow 'CLEAR THE LOBBBBBBBBAAAAAAYYYYYY!' last night. In the kitchen. Alone. And giggling to myself.

Truly this Brexit has warped my mind.

Horehound · 02/04/2019 18:15

Well, I don't know what everyone is so surprised at the WA. If there's any deal it HAS TO HAVE the WA!....

horseshit · 02/04/2019 18:15

The key thing she said is that she would ask for another short extension which would end as soon as a deal is agreed. Yeah right.

tobee · 02/04/2019 18:15

Surely if she was genuine about this she would have done ages ago?