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Westminstenders: For Whom the Bell Tolls

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RedToothBrush · 01/04/2019 22:59

Although another round of Indicative Votes is scheduled, arguably the chance for a soft Brexit has gone for two reasons.

Parliament was unable to show a majority because those on the opposition benches were too busy saying 'I want this but only on these terms' or still being too unwilling to compromise. Thus the opportunity and point for a third round starts to look weak.

The second is that Tory MPs were resolute in an opposition to a soft Brexit.

Unless May decides to be the next Robert Peel and go for a soft Brexit on the back of opposition vote its not going to happen.

This leaves May's deal as it stands or no deal.

May seems to have actually lost a few supporters of her deal since Friday, and given the performance of the opposition tonight and the prospect of round 3 of indicative votes they will still be unwilling to go for May's deal.

Which leaves no deal.

There is talk of a managed no deal. There is no such thing. The EU plan for that is essentially to push us into the deal in order to get a trading relationship.

And that will push us closer to the us. Which is what many torys want. And what polling seems to suggest they will have surprising support for.

Sorry folks but it don't look great tonight.

The opposition benches may look back on tonight and think they screwed it. I hope I'm wrong. But I fear tonight might have sealed our fate.

Tomorrow may has a 5hr cabinet. And a secret document dmfor the cabinet to study first.

It's going to get bumpy from here on in...

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AutumnCrow · 02/04/2019 18:08

Christ, her great plan is to talk to Corbyn.

Somerville · 02/04/2019 18:08

"I'm offering to sit down with the leader of the opposition to find a place that we would BOTH stick to..."

SusanWalker · 02/04/2019 18:08

Thought she was going to say 2nd ref then.

prettybird · 02/04/2019 18:08

Extension: but the key question is will she legislate for EP elections?

In which case, she can't assume that the extension will be agreed Confused

Somerville · 02/04/2019 18:09

plan not place

NoWordForFluffy · 02/04/2019 18:09

I'm watching Peter Rabbit with the small boy, so I'll need a blow by blow account!

Tanith · 02/04/2019 18:09

Apparently EU safety updates to the tracks meant the devices didn't work Grin Grin Grin

God bless the EU!!🇪🇺

Whatthefoxgoingon · 02/04/2019 18:09

Its still her deal or no deal.

Absolutely no hope here.

Tomtontom · 02/04/2019 18:09

"as long as it's the withdrawal agreement..."

Fuck's sake.

jessicawessica · 02/04/2019 18:09

Well that was a waste of seven hours.

MockerstheFeManist · 02/04/2019 18:09

Here we go:

....And she wants an extension to the extension, and she wants to take Corbyn hostage, so when it fails she can blame him, and when he refuses to go along with it, she can blame him.

Basically, she's going for No Deal and wants to blame Labour in advance.

dontcallmelen · 02/04/2019 18:10

Is she trying to make sure Labour, gets as much of the stick as the Tories I wonder.

MaudBaileysGreenTurban · 02/04/2019 18:10

Basically...yeah but no but yeah but no but Corbyn.

BestIsWest · 02/04/2019 18:10

Someone explain that to me.

AutumnCrow · 02/04/2019 18:10

What a bloody joke.

NoWordForFluffy · 02/04/2019 18:10

Pretty, David Lidington has been arranging for the elections to take place today, so I'd assume the legislation will follow.

Tomtontom · 02/04/2019 18:10

George Alagiah is lost for words!

RedToothBrush · 02/04/2019 18:10

Ladbrokes Politics @labpolitics
This will definitely work.

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Belindabelle · 02/04/2019 18:10

Is that it!

prettybird · 02/04/2019 18:11

Is the UK Government deliberately cloth-eared? Shock

BercowsSilkTie · 02/04/2019 18:11

Ffs.

Lisette1940 · 02/04/2019 18:11

Yep, no deal is Corbyn's fault.

tobee · 02/04/2019 18:11

Hmmm

horseshit · 02/04/2019 18:11

What a crock of shit, so exactly as expected.

MaudBaileysGreenTurban · 02/04/2019 18:11

Basically, she's going for No Deal and wants to blame Labour in advance

Yep. And unhappy as I am with Labour, this is not their shitshow to save.