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Westminstenders: For Whom the Bell Tolls

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RedToothBrush · 01/04/2019 22:59

Although another round of Indicative Votes is scheduled, arguably the chance for a soft Brexit has gone for two reasons.

Parliament was unable to show a majority because those on the opposition benches were too busy saying 'I want this but only on these terms' or still being too unwilling to compromise. Thus the opportunity and point for a third round starts to look weak.

The second is that Tory MPs were resolute in an opposition to a soft Brexit.

Unless May decides to be the next Robert Peel and go for a soft Brexit on the back of opposition vote its not going to happen.

This leaves May's deal as it stands or no deal.

May seems to have actually lost a few supporters of her deal since Friday, and given the performance of the opposition tonight and the prospect of round 3 of indicative votes they will still be unwilling to go for May's deal.

Which leaves no deal.

There is talk of a managed no deal. There is no such thing. The EU plan for that is essentially to push us into the deal in order to get a trading relationship.

And that will push us closer to the us. Which is what many torys want. And what polling seems to suggest they will have surprising support for.

Sorry folks but it don't look great tonight.

The opposition benches may look back on tonight and think they screwed it. I hope I'm wrong. But I fear tonight might have sealed our fate.

Tomorrow may has a 5hr cabinet. And a secret document dmfor the cabinet to study first.

It's going to get bumpy from here on in...

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SingingBabooshkaBadly · 02/04/2019 16:56

Dana - actually never mind. I’ve remembered I have a brick wall I need to bang my head against.

RedToothBrush · 02/04/2019 16:56

KLAXON

Ross Kempsall @rosskempsell
Rumours of PM statement soon

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HazardGhost · 02/04/2019 16:56

NOOO. No statement. No one fucking likes her statements.

DanaSchmidt · 02/04/2019 16:56

On April 12th we can be a free country again.

NO £39Bn payment
Take back control of our laws
UK courts free from ECJ oversight
Reclaim UK fishing waters/rights
Take back control over our borders
Seek global FTA's with the rest of the world.

Britain wants a No Deal WTO Brexit.

Now I'm off to have some English Sparkling Wine.

Shalom friends!

Songsofexperience · 02/04/2019 16:56

From the Guardian article about the Brexit impact on the nation's mental health:

But most of all, they found a weary hope that it would all end soon. Another said: “The advantage of leaving on Friday would have been not having to hear about it any more. I don’t mean that in a flippant way. It would be lovely to turn the TV on and not have to hear about it and move on.”

So so deluded. People need to realise No Deal means 20 years of brexit. A life sentence.

HazardGhost · 02/04/2019 16:58

dana one word KETITOFEN.

MarshaBradyo · 02/04/2019 16:58

Statement!

MarshaBradyo · 02/04/2019 16:58

I mean ! When there is one
Looking forward to something new ;

RedToothBrush · 02/04/2019 16:58

On April 12th we can be a free country again

If you say so.

I actually think quite the reverse. Our leverage power will be substantially reduced.

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woman19 · 02/04/2019 16:59

Shalom friends!
Confused

Peregrina · 02/04/2019 16:59

Oh dear which Leaver clone is DanaScmidt? We have had so many over the last 3 years, all spouting variations of the same nonsense.

CordeliaEarhart · 02/04/2019 16:59

NOOO. No statement. No one fucking likes her statements.

This x1million!

Tanith · 02/04/2019 17:00

NOOO. No statement. No one fucking likes her statements.

I do. The petition could do with another boost...

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 02/04/2019 17:00

Do we need to hear any more of TM and her statements
Brexit means brexit
Nothing has changed
Let me be clear
I've been clear
It's everyone else's fault
Will of the people

Think that's it covered

Songsofexperience · 02/04/2019 17:00

NO £39Bn payment- at what actual cost? Brexit costing 0.5 Billion per WEEK already

Take back control of our laws
UK courts free from ECJ oversight- free from too many human rights? That it?

Reclaim UK fishing waters/rights- won't happen, rights already sold off, gone, next

Take back control over our borders- We. Already. Have. It

Seek global FTA's with the rest of the world.good luck

Holidayshopping · 02/04/2019 17:00

Another statement-fucking joy.

What is it this time? A three hour wait followed by another 2 painful minutes of

‘blah blah...Let me absolutely clear...will of the people... Brexit means Brexit... parliament are being horrid and not doing what ‘WE’ want blah blah’

It’s embarrassing.

horseshit · 02/04/2019 17:01

Statement? Time to break into my stash and get my good German beer...

TheElementsSong · 02/04/2019 17:02

while unskilled Romanians swarm in from the EU

Nice use of language here.

Plus being in favour of the death penalty?

I'm not even sorry to say that, with those views, I'm never going to be on your side. And if that's what you think Leave means, I hope some of the less alarming Leavers distance themselves from you.

NoWordForFluffy · 02/04/2019 17:02

Ross Kempsall @rosskempsell**
Rumours of PM statement soon

NOOO. No statement. No one fucking likes her statements

This. ^^

I'll let somebody else watch that one on my behalf and report back!

PinkieTuscadero · 02/04/2019 17:02

Is she fucking trolling us with these statements?

Greensleeves · 02/04/2019 17:02

The Westminstenders threads should be released as a book when this shitshow is all over. It would end up as a set text for our unfortunate great-grandchildren who have to endure "Brexit" as a GCSE History module.

PickleSarnie · 02/04/2019 17:05

You're missing a war analogy @DanaSchmidt

Something about Blitz spirit and how we fought the Germans single handedly (which we didn't) and didn't give in then and won't give in now.

(I've only got one square left on my Bingo scorecard for a full house)

EweSurname · 02/04/2019 17:08

Robert Peston
@Peston
The talk is of Cabinet being asked to agree to a long delay to prepare better for no deal. I have no idea whether it is true. But I pass on more to give a flavour of gossip among senior Tories than to lend credibility

Songsofexperience · 02/04/2019 17:08

Peston:

The talk is of Cabinet being asked to agree to a long delay to prepare better for no deal. I have no idea whether it is true. But I pass on more to give a flavour of gossip among senior Tories than to lend credibility

That my friends means no deal on the 12th.
It is EXACTLY what Macron rejected today. The EU will not tolerate troublemakers preparing to stab them in the back.

ThereWillBeAdequateFood · 02/04/2019 17:09

Rumours of PM statement soon

Sigh, I wasn’t going to drink tonight. Where’s the gin.