Westminstenders: For Whom the Bell Tolls

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Although another round of Indicative Votes is scheduled, arguably the chance for a soft Brexit has gone for two reasons.

Parliament was unable to show a majority because those on the opposition benches were too busy saying 'I want this but only on these terms' or still being too unwilling to compromise. Thus the opportunity and point for a third round starts to look weak.

The second is that Tory MPs were resolute in an opposition to a soft Brexit.

Unless May decides to be the next Robert Peel and go for a soft Brexit on the back of opposition vote its not going to happen.

This leaves May's deal as it stands or no deal.

May seems to have actually lost a few supporters of her deal since Friday, and given the performance of the opposition tonight and the prospect of round 3 of indicative votes they will still be unwilling to go for May's deal.

Which leaves no deal.

There is talk of a managed no deal. There is no such thing. The EU plan for that is essentially to push us into the deal in order to get a trading relationship.

And that will push us closer to the us. Which is what many torys want. And what polling seems to suggest they will have surprising support for.

Sorry folks but it don't look great tonight.

The opposition benches may look back on tonight and think they screwed it. I hope I'm wrong. But I fear tonight might have sealed our fate.

Tomorrow may has a 5hr cabinet. And a secret document dmfor the cabinet to study first.

It's going to get bumpy from here on in...

Now I'm off to have some English Sparkling Wine

Dana must be a troll. No one would post that and mean it; English wine is foul.

Penny has left Cabinet Meeting and didn’t look happy according tin faisal islam

Sigh, I wasn’t going to drink tonight. Where’s the gin
Me either, but I may be joining you

Will there be a dance at the end of this statement? My cup runneth over.

And if that's what you think Leave means, I hope some of the less alarming Leavers distance themselves from you.

@elements, dana is not just a leaver. She's a fascist, an emanation of the plague that Europe painfully managed to get rid of.

Exmoor sparkling wine is very nice. We will keep making it in the Wessex Scottish alliance to come. When Mercia goes back to Danelaw ...

She can fuck off with her statements.

I think they would have to do quite a bit of editing on the threads, because sometimes our contributions stray a little. It would be good to see how they have developed over the three years. One thing many of us can say, is that we have learnt a lot about things like Irish History, 1930s appeasement, plus had some good book recommendations.

As for the Leaver clones - tiresome nuisances who think they are being clever.

To Dana and lurkers

Sign this it'll help in the manufacturing on unicorns.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

DanaSchmidt, I don't understand your reply to my comment, apologies.

We could play Maybot statement bingo. If we could be bothered.

I'm feeling generous tonight after a very early start at work.
I have sloe gin, old Martinique rum and Icelandic vodka.
Slainte!

Every single statement she has ever made has been shit. Brexit means Brexit, unicorns means unicorns. S’not me it’s them.

I’m a staunch remainerb but Nyetimber sparkling wine is lovely. It used to be £23 a bottle and is now ludicrously expensive. After Brexit it will become even more expensive but hey ho, JRM can afford it and that’s all that matters

I’m dead excite about more indicative votes on all the things Parliament doesn’t want.

hasenstein very sorry for you & your family’s loss💐

She does love her statements to empty rooms, doesn't she, the mad bint!?

Peston:

The talk is of Cabinet being asked to agree to a long delay to prepare better for no deal. I have no idea whether it is true. But I pass on more to give a flavour of gossip among senior Tories than to lend credibility

This doesn't take 8 hours. I imagine there was some heated debate going on.

Some beautiful wine is produced round my way. Hugely expensive though. Might have to give cider another go soon. Hate cider.

Camel Valley wine from Cornwall is also lovely. But I want to be able to choose my food and drinks from any EU country please

mad bint

Been years since I've heard that phrase 😂

a long delay to prepare better for no deal

Even cabinet can’t have their heads so far up their own asses that they’d spend 8 hours debating something they know the EU would never agree to, right??? That would be a step too far even for them!

I do wonder about these people promising unicorn new and shinier better deals once the UK Brexits why they think that the UK can do better than the EU's much larger market and more importantly , even in the unlikely event that the UK succeeds , don't they realise that there are Most Favoured Nation clauses in the EU deals, so that anything "better" that the UK negotiates, the EU benefits from automatically

The EU must be looking forward to finally signing the FTA with India , given that it had been the UK's attitude towards pesky extra visas that had been the stumbling block

TheElementsSong
while unskilled Romanians swarm in from the EU

Why not highlight everything I was saying rather than trying to mislead the thread?

The context was: How can it be right that skilled people from India have to jump through endless hoops to be able to come to Britain, like doctors for example and unskilled immigrants from Romania can flood in unchecked under the EUs freedom of movement.

The word "Swarm" was used by David Cameron to describe the same thing.

The question is why are you Remainers so hostile?
Even had one contributor mocking me (a Jew) saying Shalom.

This is not a nice place to be it seems.