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Westministenders: Well this is getting interesting!

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RedToothBrush · 15/11/2018 14:52

The Minister responsible for writing a deal with the EU has succeeded in coming to an agreement. And has subsequently resigned because he can not agree with it. This man previously didn't know where Dover was, and why this was important. This man is a solicitor used to writing and reading complicated documents.

And we are supposed to believe he has done the honourable thing and has quit on a matter of principle. And has in no way, been a Carpetbagger all along and has deliberately intended to scupper a deal.

Mundell is not wrong about his former Cabinet College but its not terribly polite.

Esther has fucked off too. She was cut out the loop over the UC slow down and was precorded as civil servants thought she'd go crackers if she gave a live interview. This seems consistent with reports that she threw a tantrum in the Cabinet meeting, demanding a vote, before Sir Humphrey told her to refer to the Cabinet Handbook that states that votes are not allowed.

Rees-Smugg seems to have triggered a split in the ERG and has submitted a letter to Graham. Graham has been to see Julian, to tell him that he's not had enough fan mail - yet. Other ERG seem more content to just attempt to vote the deal down. Will there be a confidence vote? If there is, will May win? If she does she gets a special prize of 12 months immunity albeit with the booby prize of still having to get a deal through Parliament.

May now seems to be running a minority government as there are suggestions that the confidence and supply deal with the DUP is over. Kate Hoey appear to have joined the DUP. Perhaps she should have resigned from the Labour party first.

Gove was offered the poison chalice of the Brexit Secretary post. Initial reports said he baulked at the responsibility. Will he resign? Is he just going to go for the top job now? There is now suggestion, he hasn't rejected it afterall. Maybe she should just abolish the department and reallocate resources to the Cabinet office (like she's already done anyway).

Mordaunt is meeting the PM this afternoon to be told personally that there isn't a cat in hell's chance that May will have a free vote over Brexit. Just so she can get the PR for her leadership bid. Resignation scheduled for this afternoon.

Hunt and Javid just sat on the front bench after making noises to please leavers and set themselves up for their leadership bid.

Johnson is lurking. No statement today. Got some ringing around to get supporters for his leadership bid? Will he be the stalking horse?

Loathsome and Fox, admit their political careers have reached their zenith, and they got a cat in hell's chance of getting another Cabinet post. They are not resigning. Today at least.

Greyling is currently silent. There is speculation that his resignation is running late. Twitter is having a field day with jokes.

Duncan has said that an ERG candidate won't be able to form a government - implying that Tories would resign the whip if they did.

Stewart, has done his honourable best to support May through thick and thin, with his best Comical Ali impression and spouting any old bollocks on the radio. Bless Little Rory.

Neill retweets him. Soames doesn't sounds unlike them both. Morgan wouldn't mind a Cabinet job again. Soubry doesn't really care who is in charge as long anymore so long as its not the ERG.

Hancock said in Cabinet that he couldn't guarentee no deaths in a no deal situation. Leavers do not have an alternative idea to May's deal but No Deal. They don't mind risking Hancock being unable to protect people from death.

There are 10 days to go until the EU Summit. We have no idea if we will have a clear PM. Two days later we find out if unilateral revokation is an option to save our necks from disaster if we get that far.

If there is a no confidence vote, its penciled in for Tuesday.

The only Brexit certainity you can be sure of is this thread won't make it til then.

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Somerville · 15/11/2018 17:43

Some of these q's are dumb AF. What on earth has happened to political journalism.

RedToothBrush · 15/11/2018 17:44

She was full of it in the HoC. Harder questions and more hostile atmosphere.

In a room full of journalists she's much more nervous and less confident.

Its surprising under the circumstances, but must reflect on how much she's feeling like she has to full back on the media to now sell her deal.

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Hazardswan · 15/11/2018 17:44

Was the no confidence causing a delay in the press conference or was it rumour?

DarlingNikita · 15/11/2018 17:46

What's vonc?

mostdays · 15/11/2018 17:46

At least since the coughing/ conference speech debacle they seem to have sorted decent doctors. Someone is prescribing something to keep her calm ish...

puttingthegenieback · 15/11/2018 17:46

"As far as I'm concerned, there will not be a second referendum"
Just a few (!!!) members of HoC today asking for a second referendum...
And does she really not regret asking for the GE????

mostdays · 15/11/2018 17:46

Vonc= votes of no confidence

OhYouBadBadKitten · 15/11/2018 17:47

well. That was a lot of nothing.

RedToothBrush · 15/11/2018 17:47

Alex Wickham @alexwickham
Penny Mordaunt meeting PM tonight

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RedToothBrush · 15/11/2018 17:50

Katy Balls @katyballs
Please tell Theresa May I have found @GeorgeWParker

All baldie journos must look like George Parker.

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WhatWouldScoobyDoo · 15/11/2018 17:50

More nervous yes but still holding it together. I’m impressed. I think if TM believes she’s doing the right thing nothing can shake her. Which is a strength and a weakness..

RedToothBrush · 15/11/2018 17:50

well. That was a lot of nothing.

As expected.

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DarlingNikita · 15/11/2018 17:50

Thanks, mostdays.

bofsy1 · 15/11/2018 17:52

I hope she's gone home to a large glass or two of something nice. She deserves it.

She must be exhausted. I wouldn't be able for all that pressure and I'm a good bit younger.

ginandtonicformeplease · 15/11/2018 17:52

Is there any word on why John Hayes went into Downing Street? I only ask as he's a pretty awful person - his current campaign is to bring back hanging. Unfortunately he's also my MP.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 15/11/2018 17:53

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SusanWalker · 15/11/2018 17:56

JRM is going to end up looking like a dick if the letter thing doesn't take off. He launched it with a fanfare but not that much seems to have come of it yet.

Although now she's doubled down maybe some more will go in.

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Minimammoth · 15/11/2018 17:57

How is she still standing up?

ThereWillBeAdequateFood · 15/11/2018 17:57

How is this up to page 10 already. I’m so behind.

RedToothBrush · 15/11/2018 17:58

Is there any word on why John Hayes went into Downing Street?

Nope.

Still no news from Boris the bastard?

Said no statement today

JRM is going to end up looking like a dick if the letter thing doesn't take off.

Can't see there not being the letters, but who knows. The whips will have been busy today.

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Talkstotrees · 15/11/2018 17:58

Hillary Benn is great, isn’t he?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/11/2018 17:59

Sam Coates Times
Sam Coates Times
@SamCoatesTimes
Source says No 10 are now expecting Gove to resign tonight...

No 10 say no comment

rainbowquack · 15/11/2018 18:00

To be fair, I can't think of anyone to replace her.

I am impressed with her resolve. Even though I think she clearly isn't listening. I wonder if she will take on. board any public opinion on the last 24 hours... but still absolute refusal to accept anything other than June 2016's referendum.