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Westministenders: Well this is getting interesting!

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RedToothBrush · 15/11/2018 14:52

The Minister responsible for writing a deal with the EU has succeeded in coming to an agreement. And has subsequently resigned because he can not agree with it. This man previously didn't know where Dover was, and why this was important. This man is a solicitor used to writing and reading complicated documents.

And we are supposed to believe he has done the honourable thing and has quit on a matter of principle. And has in no way, been a Carpetbagger all along and has deliberately intended to scupper a deal.

Mundell is not wrong about his former Cabinet College but its not terribly polite.

Esther has fucked off too. She was cut out the loop over the UC slow down and was precorded as civil servants thought she'd go crackers if she gave a live interview. This seems consistent with reports that she threw a tantrum in the Cabinet meeting, demanding a vote, before Sir Humphrey told her to refer to the Cabinet Handbook that states that votes are not allowed.

Rees-Smugg seems to have triggered a split in the ERG and has submitted a letter to Graham. Graham has been to see Julian, to tell him that he's not had enough fan mail - yet. Other ERG seem more content to just attempt to vote the deal down. Will there be a confidence vote? If there is, will May win? If she does she gets a special prize of 12 months immunity albeit with the booby prize of still having to get a deal through Parliament.

May now seems to be running a minority government as there are suggestions that the confidence and supply deal with the DUP is over. Kate Hoey appear to have joined the DUP. Perhaps she should have resigned from the Labour party first.

Gove was offered the poison chalice of the Brexit Secretary post. Initial reports said he baulked at the responsibility. Will he resign? Is he just going to go for the top job now? There is now suggestion, he hasn't rejected it afterall. Maybe she should just abolish the department and reallocate resources to the Cabinet office (like she's already done anyway).

Mordaunt is meeting the PM this afternoon to be told personally that there isn't a cat in hell's chance that May will have a free vote over Brexit. Just so she can get the PR for her leadership bid. Resignation scheduled for this afternoon.

Hunt and Javid just sat on the front bench after making noises to please leavers and set themselves up for their leadership bid.

Johnson is lurking. No statement today. Got some ringing around to get supporters for his leadership bid? Will he be the stalking horse?

Loathsome and Fox, admit their political careers have reached their zenith, and they got a cat in hell's chance of getting another Cabinet post. They are not resigning. Today at least.

Greyling is currently silent. There is speculation that his resignation is running late. Twitter is having a field day with jokes.

Duncan has said that an ERG candidate won't be able to form a government - implying that Tories would resign the whip if they did.

Stewart, has done his honourable best to support May through thick and thin, with his best Comical Ali impression and spouting any old bollocks on the radio. Bless Little Rory.

Neill retweets him. Soames doesn't sounds unlike them both. Morgan wouldn't mind a Cabinet job again. Soubry doesn't really care who is in charge as long anymore so long as its not the ERG.

Hancock said in Cabinet that he couldn't guarentee no deaths in a no deal situation. Leavers do not have an alternative idea to May's deal but No Deal. They don't mind risking Hancock being unable to protect people from death.

There are 10 days to go until the EU Summit. We have no idea if we will have a clear PM. Two days later we find out if unilateral revokation is an option to save our necks from disaster if we get that far.

If there is a no confidence vote, its penciled in for Tuesday.

The only Brexit certainity you can be sure of is this thread won't make it til then.

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rainbowquack · 15/11/2018 17:33

I've ran out of drink!

SusanWalker · 15/11/2018 17:33

She looks more shaken than she did this morning.

Talkstotrees · 15/11/2018 17:34

Agreed Susan, but she’s less shrill and seems calmer. Maybe she knows something we don’t.

prettybird · 15/11/2018 17:34

A few more WineWineWinewhile I was typing my previous post.

Now need GinGinGin

Talkstotrees · 15/11/2018 17:34

Lol! Cross post.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 15/11/2018 17:34

She really is hanging on to her composure by a thread.

RedToothBrush · 15/11/2018 17:35

Went for faisal, who in theory should be a safe bet, now the deal is on the table.

Notable that the press will largely be on side.

Now bloomberg.

She's nervous but the press are actually helping her here

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bofsy1 · 15/11/2018 17:35

Well that's it, she ain't resigning and has balls of titanium.

Nothing is going to shake that woman. I dislike the Tories but she deserves a lot of credit for her resilience.

I honestly am tuning out now because we all know it is either this agreement or Hard Brexit.

Imagine she has to explain all this at this stage. Not surprised though.

The level of political nous and knowledge within Westminster and in the general public is absolutely abysmal. Kindergarten explanations now.

RedToothBrush · 15/11/2018 17:35

Remember the press up until now have been pretty hostile.

Tide has turned somewhat.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 15/11/2018 17:35

Press really are helping her. They aren't planted questions I'm sure but they may as well be.

SusanWalker · 15/11/2018 17:35

Maybe she knows there's nothing she can do now. Either they'll get rid of her or not. Perhaps the press is more scary than the opposition front bench.

BrexitSecretary · 15/11/2018 17:37

I almost feel sorry for her.

RedToothBrush · 15/11/2018 17:37

Robert Peston asked the first difficult question about whether she is prepared to risk her party for deal.

She dodges it.

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Somerville · 15/11/2018 17:38

Of all the names to get wrong...

Talkstotrees · 15/11/2018 17:38

Answer the bloody question woman!

RedToothBrush · 15/11/2018 17:39

The press realise no deal is a disaster. Even Telegraph and express political journalists.

Are you struggling to get a new Brexit secretary.

She says shes had a busy day! Then bums Gove.

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RedToothBrush · 15/11/2018 17:40

Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
Theresa May says there is no deal with the EU "that does not involve a backstop"
-- Sounds like she is refusing Michael Gove's terms and conditions for the brexit secretary job....

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Minimammoth · 15/11/2018 17:40

Compare and contrast: May with the press, Trump with the press.

BrexitSecretary · 15/11/2018 17:40

She looks so nervous, it's difficult to watch.

MyBrexitIsIll · 15/11/2018 17:41

I’m impressed by her tbh.
I dint think any other PM befire would have lasted as long under so much pressure.
I also think all the brexiters have shown how ridiculous they are, incl all the cabinet members who have resigned because it’s not Leave enough and were Remainers during the campaign etc...
So may of them have shown their hypocrisy that it’s hard to get any support for them now.
On the other side, you might agree or not with TM ideas, but when she has decided something she sticks to it. There is no hypocrisy there.

rainbowquack · 15/11/2018 17:41

She's struggling. She didn't like the question about vonc

RedToothBrush · 15/11/2018 17:41

Kitty Donaldson @kitty_donaldson
EXC: As @theresa_may starts to speak @10DowningStreet I understand Graham Brady HASN'T received enough letters yet. He needs to receive 48 to spark a leadership challenge.

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bofsy1 · 15/11/2018 17:41

Everyone, apart from a few self serving cretins in the Tories (and the nutters in Lab) realise that no deal is a disaster.

This presser to me is to explain (via media questions) to the hard Brexiters out there in the population that this is the reality now. Seems a heck of a lot of people need to be told what's what in the REAL World.

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 15/11/2018 17:43

Then bums Gove.
i've definitely missed an exciting press conference Grin

MayhemandMadness01 · 15/11/2018 17:43

Does anyone know how many letters they have received so far for no confidence in her?