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Westminstenders: The Brexit Apprentice

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RedToothBrush · 14/06/2017 16:26

Theresa May is increasing looking like she is running an episode of the Apprentice with two teams trying to compete in their plan for Brexit. Complete with the obligatory reprehensible contestants.

On one side we have Team Creationists intent on hard Brexit and on the other we have Team Sensibles desperate to get a softer deal.
May herself has been held hostage by seasoned expert negotiators the DUP. Once No 10 has reported the deal was done, only for the DUP to say it wasn’t. Then it said, it would be settled today. But the DUP disagreed and said ‘the weekend’. Now its 'next week'.

Meanwhile the Queen has been messed about with a scapegoat over when her Queen’s Speech will be. It’s likely to be a week on Monday.
Meanwhile the Brexit department is also in chaos.

The Number two in the department was sacked and replaced by a Remainer, and the number three quit amongst reports that he no longer thought Brexit was achievable and that there was no way that the Great Repeal Act could pass through the Lords. He has been replaced by the Head of the infamous Arch-Brexit Whatsapp group.

Oh and Gove got hired. Nuff said on that one.

After some slight back tracking from David Davis, Hard Brexit is still on in all its glory. Negotiations are going ahead next week. Well that’s what we are saying. The EU, on the other hand, don’t won’t to go ahead until we have an officially sworn in government. Which seems pretty fair enough.

Tune in to find out which Team wins this week’ The Brexit Apprentice

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RhythmAndStealth · 15/06/2017 19:20

Agree they're looking for a bonfire of regulations BigChoc. No human rights, no employment rights, no Health and Safety.

RedToothBrush · 15/06/2017 19:23

Faisal Islam‏*@faisalislam*

Confirmed: The Opposition have not been consulted on the Government's starting Brexit negotiations before Commons returns/ DUP deal done

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everthibkyouvebeenconned · 15/06/2017 19:23

Yes isn't it called small state solution. Or a feudalism

Well they ain't getting it....marching on the 1st anyine coming?

RedToothBrush · 15/06/2017 19:23

Faisal Islam‏*@faisalislam*
... NB Alistair Darling in May 2010 rang both George Osborne and Vince Cable to consult over a Eurozone bailout crisis meeting, after GE2010

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woman12345 · 15/06/2017 19:24

Just a H&S Westminstenders note: has any one in west London been advise on air quality? Something to keep an eye on. Are face masks an idea? . Smile

Peregrina · 15/06/2017 19:24

What I would like to see now is a dozen Tory MPs resign the whip, and sit as Independents. Bang goes May's lead. Their constituents might not be 100% happy but if they had a reputation as good constituency MPs they might not mind.

woman12345 · 15/06/2017 19:25

@faisalislam
Confirmed: The Opposition have not been consulted on the Government's starting Brexit negotiations before Commons returns/ DUP deal done

This seems rather worrying.

BigChocFrenzy · 15/06/2017 19:26

DUP's Arlene Foster vs Scottish equal marriage law

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/15/dups-arlene-foster-allegedly-tried-to-curb-scots-gay-marriage-law

Foster, while a minister in the Northern Ireland assembly at Stormont, wrote to the Scottish government in 2015 asking ministers in Edinburgh to bar same-sex couples from Northern Ireland from converting their civil partnerships into full marriages.

The letter was disclosed by Marco Biagi, a former Scottish government minister:

Marco Biagi @MarcoGBiagi
When I was a minister DUP's Arlene Foster wrote to me asking us to curtail access of Northern Irish citizens to Scottish same-sex marriages.

Charmageddon · 15/06/2017 19:26

You are NOT entitled to LIE and put any blame on immigrants for corporate murder by big business and their Tory stooges

Again, wtaf.

I would appreciate it if you backed the fuck off now tbh.

No need.

NinonDeLenclos · 15/06/2017 19:28

I would prefer to see a link to a source that isn't the DM though, as we all know how they love to pour oil on troubled waters

I'd agree but I was tipped off by a Notting Hill mate and the DM was the only one that covered it at that point: the Indy & Standard have since caught up.

Indy

woman12345 · 15/06/2017 19:28

Lily Allen, on Channel 4 news, has noted that the number of dead is not being reported on MSM could be up to 150: many children. Has anyone else heard this?

everthibkyouvebeenconned · 15/06/2017 19:28

You coming on the march Charm? 1st July think its starts at BBC going to Westminster.

Those boots are made for walking

BigChocFrenzy · 15/06/2017 19:29

"Sinn Fein has accused May of not honouring the Good Friday agreement.
Gerry Adams, the Sinn Fein president, made the claim after meeting May to discuss the resumption of power-sharing in Northern Ireland and his party’s concerns about the Tories’ proposed deal with the DUP.
Earlier, after his meeting with May, the SDLP leader Colum Eastwood also expressed doubts about the Tory/DUP deal"

www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/jun/15/theresa-may-northern-ireland-talks-dup-deal-delayed-politics-live

BigChocFrenzy · 15/06/2017 19:30

charmageddon Then think again and take back what you wrote, blaming immigrant labour:
"It's what happens when you cut corners with your construction crews as well as materials etc.

Mass amounts of cheap, imported, ready trained labour who have been trained to lower standards than in Britain & throw in communications issues wrt language barriers."

everthibkyouvebeenconned · 15/06/2017 19:32

Woman I heard on radio a young guy saying 120 missing quite firmly. Akala has been saying over 100 since early today. And people are watching the body bags being removed Sad

citroenpresse · 15/06/2017 19:32

Most of the recent UK’s Health and Safety regulations for workers have been driven by EU regulations. Lower protection standards following Brexit seems a certainty - won't just be the quality of construction - another race to the bottom.

BigChocFrenzy · 15/06/2017 19:33

These are not communication issues or language barriers :

Install sprinkler systems
Install flame-resistant materials
Renew old wiring

That is corporate manslaughter

Putting profit before lives

RedToothBrush · 15/06/2017 19:33

Nick Robinson‏ @bbcnickrobinson
Forget DUP. Forget Brexit. Biggest political risk facing PM now is the fire - if cuts/deregulation blamed. (Reminds me of Bush & Katrina)

Will Heaven‏*@WillHeaven*

and not just PM but the Conservative Party.

Andrew Allison @andrew_allison
I agree. This appalling tragedy could have enormous political ramifications, and not just in the way @bbcnickrobinson has described.

That's Andrew Allison, of the Freedom Association. As if you didn't think this lot didn't have enough of a nerve already.

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HashiAsLarry · 15/06/2017 19:33

I think there's been evidence enough posted on here that those foreigners are often better skilled, so that was disingenuous from the start. Never mind not needed if you weren't making a point about foreigners.

Communication problems are never one sided

Charmageddon · 15/06/2017 19:34

charmageddon Then think again and take back what you wrote, blaming immigrant labour:

I won't take anything back.

I tried (unsuccessfully) to explain myself better, but couldn't, so I withdrew as I didn't want to derail anymore & get involved with tit for tat.

However, I have not had a go at any of the posters that countered what I said, I have also not had a go at you.

All I have asked you to do is back the fuck off and stop being personal to & about me.

If you don't want to stop, don't.
Whatever.

RhythmAndStealth · 15/06/2017 19:34

The Indy and the Standard report him being challenged Ninon- any non-Fail links to the bottle incident?

woman12345 · 15/06/2017 19:34

London fire latest: Fears Grenfell Tower death toll will rise above 100 as public inquiry ordered
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/15/london-fire-latest-death-toll-set-rise-amid-grim-search-grenfell/

It's officially well over 100.

They must be worried about the reaction to these numbers.

Charmageddon · 15/06/2017 19:35

Communication problems are never one sided

I never said they were.

everthibkyouvebeenconned · 15/06/2017 19:39

Cutscostlives

Hopefully now the Cutscostcareers The ones that created this mess should pay. What do they think all those in social housing are thinking? An awful lot of them do actually vote Tory

BigChocFrenzy · 15/06/2017 19:40

Millions of people live in blocks of flats and some in high-rise blocks must be terrified when they go to sleep, what they will wake up to.
They deserve safe homes and peace of mind.

Labour is demanding a special Commons session to question a senior minister about what the government plans to do in the wake of the fire and ask why it failed to act on coroners’ concerns about two previous tower block fires.

Labour MP for Tottenham, David Lammy, said that what happened amounted to “corporate manslaughter”.

Shadow Housing minister John Healey accused ministers of rejecting or ignoring key recommendations of coroners’ reports into fatal tower block fires in south London and Southampton

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/15/labour-says-government-must-answer-serious-questions-after-grenfell-fire