Westminstenders: The Brexit Apprentice

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Theresa May is increasing looking like she is running an episode of the Apprentice with two teams trying to compete in their plan for Brexit. Complete with the obligatory reprehensible contestants.

On one side we have Team Creationists intent on hard Brexit and on the other we have Team Sensibles desperate to get a softer deal.
May herself has been held hostage by seasoned expert negotiators the DUP. Once No 10 has reported the deal was done, only for the DUP to say it wasn’t. Then it said, it would be settled today. But the DUP disagreed and said ‘the weekend’. Now its 'next week'.

Meanwhile the Queen has been messed about with a scapegoat over when her Queen’s Speech will be. It’s likely to be a week on Monday.
Meanwhile the Brexit department is also in chaos.

The Number two in the department was sacked and replaced by a Remainer, and the number three quit amongst reports that he no longer thought Brexit was achievable and that there was no way that the Great Repeal Act could pass through the Lords. He has been replaced by the Head of the infamous Arch-Brexit Whatsapp group.

Oh and Gove got hired. Nuff said on that one.

After some slight back tracking from David Davis, Hard Brexit is still on in all its glory. Negotiations are going ahead next week. Well that’s what we are saying. The EU, on the other hand, don’t won’t to go ahead until we have an officially sworn in government. Which seems pretty fair enough.

Tune in to find out which Team wins this week’ The Brexit Apprentice

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Adam Bienkov @AdamBienkov

Boris Johnson promising not to slash London's fire service. He later closed 10 station and scrapped 27 engines. t.co/8eCEs8nwqL?amp=1

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A different but pertinent question which really is far reaching

Where the fuck are the Kensington boroughs major incident/ disaster and continuity plans? Why haven't they kicked in?

London is a hotspot for terrorism. If it was on this scale the local area and current government clearly can not cope

Have done some disaster recovery. People usually are quite at the top of the list e.g. where to work how who to talk to co ordination. Alternative locations etc etc

Or is it only planned for the rich and the rest can sleep on the streets. I'm starting to get a bit class war for the first time ever apologies

It is just that a failure to manage teams effectively is not the fault of the team members, it is the fault of the managers. If overseas builders are needed they need to address the issues of British and overseas builders being enabled to communicate effectively.

YY to that. It's the responsibility of management to deal with that sort of issues. There is nothing out the ordinary about doing that.

Now I know I might have a skewed pov but having worked in eastern countries with British management, I would bet that there is a big issue linked with the attitude of British management towards 'foreigners' (aka they are all stupid and I am oh so superior alomg side I'm not going to make any effort forr them). :(

Where the fuck are the Kensington boroughs major incident/ disaster and continuity plans? Why haven't they kicked in?

Very good question.
It seems that solidarity amongst people on the ground has made a huge difference. But I haven't seen anything that was actually planned and organised by the government. Unless Ive missed something??
There shouod be something in place at least at the level of the town (London) or at a national level that should kick in.....

Where the fuck are the Kensington boroughs major incident/ disaster and continuity plans? Why haven't they kicked in?

All the relief work seems to be being shouldered by volunteers and community organisations.

According to the DM, Sadiq Khan has had a bottle thrown at him when visiting Grenfell.

Up to 300 people gathered outside Notting Hill Methodist Church in West London where the Mayor of London had been visiting the scene of the inferno.

A bottle is believed to have been thrown towards Mr Khan, who was said to be hiding inside the church as 20 police officers rushed outside to calm the situation

Photographs showed a man being led away by officers as Metropolitan Police reinforcements headed in, and the atmosphere was said to be 'very tense'.

link

These are the kind of conditions that can lead to riots.

Yep. I think there could well be riots. Have thought this since yesterday

Good planning and emergency co ordination at local and national level is a bloody necessity. People have been saying this is out Hurricane Katrina...it is

We clearly can not rely on our government...What is worse is technically they are meant to plan for this at every level.. Why are they not executing plans?

charmageddon

Buildings without sprinkler systems and with flammable cladding have FUCK ALL to do with "cheap" immigrant labour who have "lower standards of training" !

Decisions to buy and install sprinkler systems, to buy more flame-resistant materials - which are more expensive - are made by top management only

Only TORY MPs voted against the proposed regulations to make sprinkler systems mandatory for highrise buildings.
No Labour or LiDem or SNP MPs

It is NOT everyone's fault.
Stop trying to spread the blame to protect your party and thee business donors

How FUCKING dare you blame immigrants for corporate murder by big business and their Tory MP shills

buildings and land left empty for more then a certain period should be returned to the state for use as council housing

I prefer your idea, Bigly But Hanson has this one too:

Squatting: the best way to solve our unnecessary housing crisis.

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/apr/24/bring-back-squatting-the-best-way-to-solve-our-unnecessary-housing-crisis

Although pollution reports allegedly haven't shown a noticeable increase since the fire, I hope we don't end up with a 9/11 type situation with people suffering long term illness de to inhaling toxic air.

No organisation, no council co ordination, survivors are still homeless, no records of victims, no masks for people who could be further injured by even more toxic air.

Jennifer Nettles, 37, was helping direct volunteers at the door of the church. “As the wind’s shifting around the neighbourhood, it’s blowing debris, dust, ash - whatever was in the building,” she said.

Yesterday, some of us started coughing fits from the fire. Right now, I can feel my throat’s burning. I’m concerned for everyone who’s working around the building,” she said. “You don’t know what the building was made off. There’s fear, are you going to have any long-term consequences

She added: As far as I can see, there’s nothing coming from the council

Builders' merchants are kindly donating face masks, but nothing from local or national government.

In one of the richest boroughs in the world.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2017/jun/15/london-fire-17-confirmed-dead-as-police-expect-more-fatalities-after-tower-block-blaze-latest#5942b920e4b0d5ab311e8168

EDL have attacked Moslem volunteers and DM has published detail of a fire survivor in whose flat the fire may have started accidentally. Can you guess what colour his skin is?

May is now a hostage of DUP. They will have instructed on brexit negotiations: see DUP funding of the Leave campaign.
I think Brexit is still on, and so is a DUP/Tory alliance to see it through.

We're in a constitutional no man's land, and they will continue to pursue their agenda, mandate, majority or not.

The only hope is that Barnier et al will want to negotiate with some one who does have a mandate. Breakdown of talks, re run of brexit traitor nonsense ad nauseam, until, for an easy life, British people just give in and let her do what she/ Arlene's bosses want.

I imagine Monday's meeting will be pretty short anyway.

YY Bigchoc ^

Faisal Islam‏*@faisalislam*

Where are we on the Conservative-DUP confidence & supply deal? THread:
1/10 agreed the Confidence part of it: ie the basis of voting for a "revised Queen's Speech" and that is what allowed date to be set for Wed
2/10 but two documents being negotiated - short QS, & separate documents with some other commitments, e.g. Upfront financial investment
3/10: so "Supply" part of ongoing support for Govt is 95% done, might have been announced yday- London fire delayed - Should be Tues/ Thurs
4/10 However, delay has now brought another player in to the discussions: HM Treasury, who are combing through the fiscal numbers in deal
5/10 at its most benign this is about sorting out whether extra NI spending is "Barnettable" - still controversial for Scottish Govt
6/10 but some Brexiteers MPs queasy about Spreadsheet Phil having key role in signing off the numbers in this deal
7/10 safe to say, deal involves large cheque for N. Ireland - nation already does best from public spend (£11k per cap vs £8.8k for England)
8/10 on Brexit implications there are different DUP wings: many perfectly in tune with ex CU/SM, some point out soft border/ NI electorate
9/10. Worth noting that Arlene Foster is very close to new Irish Taoiseach Leo Varadkar - both tourism ministers together - impt on border
10/10 but worth noting that I have heard now DUP voices as well as Tory ones pondering how toxic the other party will be to its own voters

www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2017/06/grenfell-tower-fire-has-turned-spotlight-austeritys-limits
The Grenfell Tower fire has turned a spotlight on austerity's limits

Faisal Islam @faisalislam

Where are we on the Conservative-DUP confidence & supply deal? THread:

1/10 agreed the Confidence part of it: ie the basis of voting for a "revised Queen's Speech" and that is what allowed date to be set for Wed

2/10 but two documents being negotiated - short QS, & separate documents with some other commitments, e.g. Upfront financial investment

3/10: so "Supply" part of ongoing support for Govt is 95% done, might have been announced yday- London fire delayed - Should be Tues/ Thurs

4/10 However, delay has now brought another player in to the discussions: HM Treasury, who are combing through the fiscal numbers in deal

5/10 at its most benign this is about sorting out whether extra NI spending is "Barnettable" - still controversial for Scottish Govt

6/10 but some Brexiteers MPs queasy about Spreadsheet Phil having key role in signing off the numbers in this deal

7/10 safe to say, deal involves large cheque for N. Ireland - nation already does best from public spend (£11k per cap vs £8.8k for England)

8/10 on Brexit implications there are different DUP wings: many perfectly in tune with ex CU/SM, some point out soft border/ NI electorate

9/10. Worth noting that Arlene Foster is very close to new Irish Taoiseach Leo Varadkar - both tourism ministers together - impt on border

10/10 but worth noting that I have heard now DUP voices as well as Tory ones pondering how toxic the other party will be to its own voters

*It is NOT everyone's fault.
Stop trying to spread the blame to protect your party and thee business donors

How FUCKING dare you blame immigrants for corporate murder by big business and their Tory MP shills*

Wtaf.

Spread the blame?
Protect my party?
Protect 'my party's' business donors?
Blame immigrants for corporate murder?

Jesus fucking Christ.

I have said none of that.

How fucking dare you.

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It seems very sad and disturbing that they are taking out their anger on Sadiq Khan. Why not take it out on Theresa May? Oh, because she made sure she wasn't anywhere near them.

Yep. I think there could well be riots. Have thought this since yesterday

Same here. Things have been getting worse as anger rises. I can see it kicking off.

I also fear Grenfall is not going to be the last Austerity Disaster.

As I've posted, Grenfell is so similar to the mass loss of life in 1987 in the Herald of Free Interprise sinking.
That was also caused entirely by business deliberately reducing safety precautions to save money.

imo that started the wave of disgust then with the rightwing policy of putting profit before people's safety.

Health & Safety regulations save lives
Putting profit first kills people

One major reason the rightwing want a hard Brexiter is to carry out their Bonfire of Regulations, which includes H&S, as well as workers' rights and a clean environment for us all

We must stop them

I wouldn't be surprised if there were riots either.

I would prefer to see a link to a source that isn't the DM though, as we all know how they love to pour oil on troubled waters.

Charmageddon You posted:

"The poor construction is prevalent across all housing, not just social housing.

It's what happens when you cut corners with your construction crews as well as materials etc.

Mass amounts of cheap, imported, ready trained labour who have been trained to lower standards than in Britain & throw in communications issues wrt language barriers."

You are perfectly entitled to say you don't want immigrants for cultural reasons or whatever

You are NOT entitled to LIE and put any blame on immigrants for corporate murder by big business and their Tory stooges

it again the government or its civil servants will be well versed in the potentials for riots...whete is the disaster recovery plan in action? Just to add the the mix it could be 30 degrees at the weekend.

If there are riots there's a hell of a lot of rich people in that area..You know the people the Tory actually care about...mind you they just went Labour hhhmmm

And of course, as we well know, there's just not enough police resource to deal with riots right now.

Agree that any kind of disaster/major incident plan seemed absent from the local authorities.

Yes, this is our Hurricane Katrina.

I was in the US soon after Katrina, reasonably close by (Memphis- on a train linefrom New Orleans so a lot of people fled there I think).

I'll never forget seeing refugees sleeping 6 to a park bench (3 on it, 3 under it) in a garden square, surrounded by glosssy glass skyscraper hotels- all empty. All with plenty of beds.

Now where else does that sound like? Empty accomodation whilst people live in overcrowded conditions or sleep rough.

The survivors and the whole community are so angry they are hitting out at anyone they feel are the "establishment", who abandoned them

Labour and LibDems need to explain clearly that they support compulsory regulations for sprinkler systems and other safety measures.
Show how they are different from the Tory rightwing and big business

I remember clearly after the Herald disaster how the company management and the Tory party kept trying to blame individual crew members, the captain, everybody possible to deflect blame from themselves, the only real culprits.

I see the same pattern here on MN and in some Tory media:

A cornerstone of rightwing and Brexit policy - A Bonfire of Regulations - has been shown up as a clear killer

The Tories will try to delay any action on safety regs and obfuscate until memories have faded
We mustn't let them

No there isn't. May...here is a slow hand clap. Get out of No 10 before you alienate everyone. Take Boris and Dave and Gove...fuck it take them all with you into the wheat fields

What happened at the end of wicker man?