Westminstenders: The Brexit Apprentice

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Theresa May is increasing looking like she is running an episode of the Apprentice with two teams trying to compete in their plan for Brexit. Complete with the obligatory reprehensible contestants.

On one side we have Team Creationists intent on hard Brexit and on the other we have Team Sensibles desperate to get a softer deal.
May herself has been held hostage by seasoned expert negotiators the DUP. Once No 10 has reported the deal was done, only for the DUP to say it wasn’t. Then it said, it would be settled today. But the DUP disagreed and said ‘the weekend’. Now its 'next week'.

Meanwhile the Queen has been messed about with a scapegoat over when her Queen’s Speech will be. It’s likely to be a week on Monday.
Meanwhile the Brexit department is also in chaos.

The Number two in the department was sacked and replaced by a Remainer, and the number three quit amongst reports that he no longer thought Brexit was achievable and that there was no way that the Great Repeal Act could pass through the Lords. He has been replaced by the Head of the infamous Arch-Brexit Whatsapp group.

Oh and Gove got hired. Nuff said on that one.

After some slight back tracking from David Davis, Hard Brexit is still on in all its glory. Negotiations are going ahead next week. Well that’s what we are saying. The EU, on the other hand, don’t won’t to go ahead until we have an officially sworn in government. Which seems pretty fair enough.

Tune in to find out which Team wins this week’ The Brexit Apprentice

May is now visiting one of the centres that has been helping. There was a security risk yesterday and there is not today? She really can't do right for doing wrong at every turn, no judgement has been on show since last Thursday. Is she having some sort of breakdown?

No she really is THAT incompetent and THAT out of her depth and THAT out of touch with reality.

One thing firemen are (sadly) trained for is to always bear in mind is that there may have been homeless people trapped in a building. Especially "empty" ones.

I used to know a London fireman (heroes to a man) and when he was training, they used photographs from the New Cross fire to illustrate how difficult it is to find human remains in the aftermath of an inferno.

I've just watched the video of the queen meeting people and it shows you don't have to be touchy-freely and hugging people to look like you care. She's just listening and asking questions. TM could learn from it as she's not a touchy feely person at all.

Series of tweet from the last hour:

Hannah Al-Othman @HannahAlOthman

Theresa May is in St Clement's Church. A group of v angry women is waiting for her to come out.
"I want her to come out her and face us. What are you doing here on Friday? I lost my home on Tuesday, people lost their lives on Tuesday."
Police are trying to move the growing crowd of people out of the way
The police are looking nervous.
People chanting "get her out". Not sure if they mean of the church or number ten.
I think the prime minister might be trapped in a church.
Two vans of police have arrived and are parked round the side
May is still in church, angry people are still outside
May is leaving to shouts of "Coward"
This is turning quite nasty
Situation has diffused slightly. Community members stepping in to calm it down.
Theresa May left by a side door without facing the public.

I've just watched the video of the queen meeting people and it shows you don't have to be touchy-freely and hugging people to look like you care. She's just listening and asking questions. TM could learn from it as she's not a touchy feely person

Saw a great quote on FB:

THERESA MAY: "I can't visit the Grenfell victims because of security fears."

THE QUEEN: "Hold my Crown ..."

I think that Lilly Allen, is a clever mum who was brought up by a clever single mum in financially difficult circumstances in the Kensington area.

On Channel 4 news, last night, she suggested that the real numbers of dead are not being made public. It's a 'free country'. Why should she not say this?

There is still no co ordination of this crisis.

On Jo Good on radio London they are trying to link up people with push chairs to donate with those who need them by sending personal emails. Why should this have to happen via radio presenters and kind donators. Who is co ordinating this? If no one is, why not?

The death toll will be very high. It appears to have been caused by greed and knowing apathy. Another phone in caller on Radio London claimed that those campaigning for fire and health safety in affected blocks were threatened with legal action. Most of those killed are people of colour. And D notices are well known.

Isn't 'white heat of technology' Wilson LH? But I bet you're right.

And like your Roman allusions earlier.

Red you could charge for this it's an educational thread.

Jim Waterson‏*@jimwaterson*
Brexit negotiations still due to start Monday, apparently.

It's a 'free country'. Why should she not say this?

If you are a public figure you should use that platform responsibly.

Its a free country yes, but with power comes responsibility. Lily Allen has power. A different power, but a power none the less.

She could have said something, but she didn't need to shout about a cover-up. It has consequences.

The average council worker in housing isn't in a situation where they have any more power than those storming the building. Its put those people at risk.

What has she said which is wrong?

Wilson was the 'white heat of technology'. DH confirms that McMillan was 'events dear boy'.

Rupert Myers‏*@RupertMyers*

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Suggested a cover-up of the dead woman12345.

Today is, truly, a very sad and poignant anniversary , just look at what's happened in the past year.

GUARDian:

At St Clement’s church, the prime minister was greeted as she left the building and got in her car by shouts of “shame on you” and “coward, coward”. She did not speak to anyone as she left. One local said: “The tower block is more strong and stable than that woman.” There was a brief scuffle between one protester and some of the more than 30 police lined up outside the building.

Today is, truly, a very sad and poignant anniversary

I've got the next thread starter done. Its not lost on me.

Krishnan Guru-Murthy‏*@krishgm*

If Theresa May came again to make up for not speaking to people yesterday she may well have made things worse by leaving the way she did

She's just listening and asking questions. TM could learn from it as she's not a touchy feely person

I suspect that the Queen is not a natural extrovert, but had to learn. It's OK now because she has had 65 years of practice, but I bet when she started she was told to learn and get on with it.

Theresa May could have done with taking a few lessons. It wouldn't have hurt to say publicly, "I'm not extrovert, I'm learning but bear with me", but after the Presidential style of the election, called to stick it to Corbyn, where she was crowing about how rubbish he was, people aren't likely to be forgiving now.

I think, amongst all the noise, Lilly Allen is actually asking a very important question. Why is it that the media will publish estimates of deaths based on witnesses that differ from official accounts during certain circumstances like terrorism, but refuse to under others like potential government negligence?

We've moaned here enough about how the media should be holding government to account over brexit and the general election, at what point should they stop this?

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Kensington Labour‏*@KensingtonCLP* 1h
Anger is absolutely justified. People are sleeping in a sports hall.
There's denial around numbers of dead.

How is this helpful? They should be calming the situation not stirring it. Kensington CLP represent community leaders.

The risk of more innocent people getting hurt is rising.

for the graphics. red

and for the suggestion of cover up. But Allen is talking from and about a 'non white', if one believes in melatonin, aspect of Britain.

And looking at New Cross, Joy Gardner, this is well known. Black Britain and especially black London knows this well.

The political atmosphere is so febrile, any one could set this off. I don't think poor wee Lilly Allen should be blamed.

We have to look to our own selves.

If May wanted a race situation, she's gone and done it herself. It's not Lilly Allen's fault.

We have to pick up the pieces, it's Jo Cox day.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/16/weekend-festivities-first-anniversary-jo-cox-death
^UK-wide events to mark first anniversary of Jo Cox’s death
More than 100,000 community events to take place as part of The Great Get Together in commemoration of murdered MP^

I have to say if TM is handling Brexit the same way that she has handled this crisis (no communication whatsoever ever, distant, carrying as if people didn't matter etc..), this will be fun...

The risk of more innocent people getting hurt is rising.

Maybe that's what's wanted ? Treat people like shit. Provoke them into reaction, and then point at them and say "only Theresa May and the Tory party can protect you from these losers".

Cynicism is a dangerous state to drift into.

Mob rule on TV, how will this help anyone?

Why is it that the media will publish estimates of deaths based on witnesses that differ from official accounts during certain circumstances like terrorism, but refuse to under others like potential government negligence?

I'm not sure that's a wholly accurate reflection.

In terror attacks, people can SEE the bodies and there are eyewitnesses. They sensationalise and instantly report because of it.

In this situation there are no eyewitnesses. The bodies are hidden away even from the investigators.

Even then the relatives of people caught up in the Manchester bombing complained about the length of time it took to get information, and we did not get an official figure straight away at all. They too complained about what they were told and what they were not told.

It did take several days to come out.

Also it depends on the nature of the incident. The Bridge attacks were in a much more public space.

Finally it depends on the media outlet. The BBC NEVER will release inaccurate figures. But we have become used to other media outlets reporting before verification from wild eye witness accounts.

I do think its more about where it has happened and our expectations of the media rather than it being a deliberate thing over the nature of the incident.

This incident because they are more at the mercy of the fire/police to report rather than the media to just spew it all out there is more of a feeling of frustration and powerlessness.

But its not conscious or deliberate. The police have a responsibility not to give statement which are inaccurate.

The police have a responsibility not to give statement which are inaccurate.

Is that since the shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes ?