Project Fear were wrong all along?

[MrsPeterParker]

With all the newspapers and economic reports screaming there is no/ only positive impact of brexit so far, do you think the Remainers were all wrong and needlessly projecting doomsday scenarios ?

What's pathetic is ignoring the fact that it's you who are in bed with the bankers and the global corporates, who basically want to shaft ordinary people, and you can't even see it. You think you're on some great mission of social justice? How wrong you are. There is a class of people commonly known as 'useful idiots'. I'm sure you know what that means. If not, google it. It may be enlightening.

Most people in the EU have about the same access to healthcare as we do with the NHS.

Uh huh.

But will they want to come Larry? If you make the process more difficult and incur expense while doing it it will deter people.

Also the point that the ignorant poster above was trying to make was that the NHS was suffering because of immigration. It isn't.

One you have the healthy migrant effect, two you have the fact that stopping immigration would have a detrimental effect on funding, whilst not having a corresponding fall in demand.

The NHS is not under pressure because of immigration. It is under pressure because of austerity.

I am not an expert on why eu workers come to work in the nhs. However, the reason they are here will not change with Brexit, and nor will their right to remain.

But come to think of it you're perhaps a bit of a fascist yourself, despite your twinset-and-pearls posting style, no?

my goodness

we are getting desperate

I'm truly astonished by the idea that EU immigration has no impact on the NHS. Do you ever listen to people outside your own bubble?

the reason they are here will not change with Brexit, and nor will their right to remain.

Unless you have some more information, you don't know this. People are already leaving because of Brexit, or not taking up posts, and this is before anything tangible has happened.

Larry, if we make the process of getting a job more arduous here, as it will undoubtedly be, it will be harder to attract workers who have freedom of movement to other countries. Especially those who have skills that are in demand.

winchester I would really like to hear how you think the 'useful idiots' you refered to will benefit from leaving the EU.

It is pitiful to think it's a simple as 'I disagree with the bankers and they want to remain so I'll vote Leave'

It's looking like the people of Sunderland are suddenly realising what their vote might actually mean.

What will the 'useful idiots' gain?

No I'm afraid it's a different set of people I think are useful idiots. The people who think their continuing remain campaign is a mission of social justice.

Ok, whatever.

What will the Larry drivers in Doncaster gain?

Lorry not Larry

The Guardian

Didn't you vote for democracy WinchesterWoman? We are allowed to continue the debate.

[http://moneyweek.com/bernard-connolly-george-soros-is-wrong-about-brexit-and-the-pound/ Why George Soros is wrong]]

Yes of course you're allowed to continue the debate. Continuing the campaign to overturn a democratic vote is, however rather a glib interpretation of the word 'democracy'.

Why George Soros is wrong

Smallfox,

It just is not true unless the reason to work in the uk is v marginal. Again I am not an expert but when I managed a banking department I employed quite a few non eu citizens. It only takes a half way decent hr department to make the process virtually painless.

Someone called me a fascist. I wish I could remember who it was.

If you voted Leave on the basis on that Guardian article winchester there's clearly no point in continuing to engage with you.

I hope your choice bites you on the arse.

Yes of course you're allowed to continue the debate. Continuing the campaign to overturn a democratic vote is, however rather a glib interpretation of the word 'democracy'.

That's a slightly odd thing to say, or don't you think we should have general elections every 5 years?

It also depends on whether you believe that such a small majority gives a democratic mandate to the path being perused. It is ironic too that the royal prerogative is being used to force through this, and it isn't being allowed to be debated and voted on in our sovereign parliament.

See I don't believe that the foot stamping about democracy and the "will of the people" is accurate. Its an attempt to close down the argument, and its not working,.

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Why, Bear? Obviously it wasn't - I posted that in response to the question about lorry drivers in Doncaster - but why? I don't like to brush people aside like chaff but maybe you do.

I think maybe the 'fascist' label came from one of the people who want to overturn a democratic vote. Some people might call that ironic.

I don't know if you are a fascist ww but you are certainly a bit simple
Let me guess, big pharma is killing us as well?

Also rude, wrong - and possibly a stalker! That's quite an impressive tally.