Westminstenders Contines. Boris outmaneovered everyone?! Now War and Peace?

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THE BREXIT FALLOUT CONTINUES - THREAD TEN

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This set of threads started out asking if Boris had been outmanoeuvred by Cameron handing him a poison chalice. Fate made it seem as if Boris lost the battle but May has confounded everyone and handed him a second chance. Or so it might seem.

May now has a new Cabinet after a sweeping cull of Cameron's lot. It is more right wing than in a generation. A number of appointments have raised eyebrows. There are plenty of poison chalices and plenty of Brexiteers. Will this create peace in the Tory ranks? Or is it just the calm before the storm

Labour are tearing themselves apart what now seems to be all out civil war. Talk of gerrymandering, violence, disenfranchisement, deselection and intimidation are rife. The seems to be no end in sight, and no prospect of a solution apparent. The question perhaps seems to be when and how, rather than if the party will split, and who will retain the name and party funds.

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So the sad face of British politics in the last two days can be summed up in a single image. Boris and a brick.

Depressed?

I think we have a while to go yet before we hit the bottom.

Excuse me with the intros as I'm starting to struggle to keep up with things myself

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/2684990-The-Westminster-Hunger-Games-Contines-May-Day-May-Day Previous Thread Nine

Buzzfeed's Inside Story of Momentum's Structure
www.buzzfeed.com/jamesball/inside-the-complex-snarl-of-companies-which-control-the-pro?bftwuk&utm_term=.sbl8PdL79#.nqJLKmD4e

The reasons Turkey has been kept out of the EU for so many years are:

a) Cyprus - Greece kept lobbyng to keep them out, but didn't need to because of b)
b) Democratic & human rights deficit - Turkey has never come close to satisfying the EU minimum and is further away than ever. Damn right they shouldn't join.

Not discriminatory at all:
The EU didn't allow Greece, Spain, Portugal to join while they were fascist dictatorships, but welcomed them once they became democracies
The EU also welcomed the E European countries once they became free of communist dictatorship.

Germany and the Euro (reply to upthread)

Germany wanted to keep its DMark, but was forced to agree to the Euro by France:
France had a cunning plan - which worked about as well as Baldrick's cunning plans - to keep a united Germany from becoming too powerful and dominating the EU economy

Somehow they overlooked basic economics:
having a common currency tends to increase differences between strong & weaker economies, because weaker countries can no longer devalue to compete.

I love being in Germany, mainly:

• The higher taxes pay for brilliant public services and transport infrastructure
• Far less social inequality, far more social mobility
• A sound economy, based on the powerhouse of manufacturing throughout Germany - not like the UK which is dependent on the casino capitalism of the City of London and on people selling services to each other.
• Powerful trade unions and mandatory Works Councils where unions and employers cooperate together
• Millions of permanent well-paid jobs, genuine 35 or 40 hrs, not working unpaid all hours.
• No housing spiral, most folk rent because you can stay securely for 50+ years, decorate to your own taste, have your own kitchen & bathroom installed.