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PM to give 8pm address tonight (Sunday), no new restrictions expected

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bagofconkers · 12/12/2021 17:03

"As pressure from virus rises, PM will give national address at 8pm tonight, updating the booster programme - sounds like this will NOT include new restrictions"

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Booklover3 · 13/12/2021 15:25

@Sunflowersinthewind

All he has done is organised a nice nationwide panicked super spreader event, which no doubt we will all get blamed for
Indeed. We cross posted
the80sweregreat · 13/12/2021 15:26

Starmer is just jumping on the band wagon here
He can't say anymore than the PM has already
Unless he has more data or something ( unlikely ) then what is the point ?

jgw1 · 13/12/2021 15:30

@SickAndTiredAgain

I give it til Wednesday at the latest before lots of people start getting really pissed off by the size of walk in queues, the website crashing, no bookings available before Jan and there being no lateral flows available cos the NHS have run out.

I agree. They announce that everyone should be offered it by Jan, and make ominous statements about cancer appointments being cancelled if we don’t do it. And say vaccinated contacts need to do an LFT every day.

And then say, oh sorry did you misunderstand? You’ll just be able to book it by the 31st of Jan, probably because that’s how long it will take us to get the website back up. And by the way, there are no LFTs left.

It was obvious yesterday it wasn’t achievable by the end of the month, why not give a big but still achievable target and honest statements about the potential effect of not getting it done.

He said there may be cancer appointments cancelled if this isn’t achieved. If what isn’t achieved exactly? If everyone isn’t booked for an appointment by 31st, even if their actual appointment isn’t until February? Just let it ominously hang there as a possibility and then blame us for not getting the boosters fast enough if it happens, while not actually defining “fast enough”.

Am I right in thinking they have no stated goal for a set number of booster vaccinations by a set date? That’s one way to avoid failing to meet a target.
Because the target to offer it to everyone by the end of Dec was met as soon as he said “everyone can now book or go to a walk in.” That surely constitutes the offer, so they can all pat themselves on the back now. Anyone not yet boosted, it’s on you, the government have offered it, they’ve done their part, why haven’t you done yours.

That was a bit of a rant sorry, looks like I don’t need until Wednesday to get pissed off.

Spot on.

I was "offered" my flu vaccination 6 weeks ago. In that I had a letter from NHS England saying I could have it.

This did not allow for there not being enough a) vaccine or b) staff to jab me.

Now with Boris playing politics with the covid boosters who knows when the flu one will happen.

SerenadeOfTheSchoolRun · 13/12/2021 15:37

My GP centre where I volunteer is opening double the number of days than they had planned before Christmas. I suspect that more appointments will become available everywhere once the centres get organised. They didn’t get any warning remember.

RedToothBrush · 13/12/2021 15:38

Jgw1 i had an unsolicited email today from the pharmacy I am getting my booster at, offering me a flu vaccine at the same time as my covid one. No fuss easy peasy apparently.

I'm in my 40s and not eligible for one on the NHS. I would have to pay for it.

Obviously you are mistaken in your belief that there isn't enough flu vaccine...

Saucery · 13/12/2021 15:42

My nearest centres are offering Walk In boosters now, but only on the same 4 days as the existing appointments. So that will make it quicker and easier to get one, won’t it? Hmm

jgw1 · 13/12/2021 15:47

@RedToothBrush

Jgw1 i had an unsolicited email today from the pharmacy I am getting my booster at, offering me a flu vaccine at the same time as my covid one. No fuss easy peasy apparently.

I'm in my 40s and not eligible for one on the NHS. I would have to pay for it.

Obviously you are mistaken in your belief that there isn't enough flu vaccine...

Some people believe in god others in there being enough vaccine it seems.
SickAndTiredAgain · 13/12/2021 15:52

@RedToothBrush

Jgw1 i had an unsolicited email today from the pharmacy I am getting my booster at, offering me a flu vaccine at the same time as my covid one. No fuss easy peasy apparently.

I'm in my 40s and not eligible for one on the NHS. I would have to pay for it.

Obviously you are mistaken in your belief that there isn't enough flu vaccine...

I guess it varies around the country. For a couple of months after I got a letter telling me to book DD in for her nasal spray flu vaccine our GP surgery was saying they didn’t have it, didn’t know when they were getting it, and were annoyed the NHS had sent letters to all their patients telling them to ring and book when they normally do that themselves once they know when they’re getting it in.

In other areas of the country toddlers were having the nasal spray much earlier without any problems.

HannibalHayeski · 13/12/2021 16:02

@the80sweregreat

As long as we can buy our loo rolls and pasta , I guess there will always be a glimmer of a silver lining to all the doom and gloom and queuing for a booster :(
Wait until January, when the full Brexit border controls come into force...
amicissimma · 13/12/2021 16:23

A local pharmacy where I volunteer is giving the flu vaccine at the same time as the booster. I wonder what they are injecting if there is no vaccine (this is both under and over 65s).

Whu020 · 13/12/2021 17:31

Overhyped bullshit

Kittysummer · 13/12/2021 17:45

I was due my booster but as I was going abroad I had to move the date until later. I asked twice if I could have it earlier and was told it was dangerous to do so. So how is now Boris says you can have it three months after second jab?

Loulablake · 13/12/2021 17:50

I think he’ll give us Christmas and new year’s but I think it’ll be January for another lockdown unless vaccinated. Xx

SerenadeOfTheSchoolRun · 13/12/2021 18:04

The big local centre has just announced new appointments until 11.30pm this week. They are struggling to do all the walk ins that arrived this morning and stopped accepting them today. It was very busy in there this afternoon with just the appointments.

RedToothBrush · 13/12/2021 19:01

Starmer had to get a set designer in cos he hasn't got a posh office to use as a backdrop.

Its hilarous!

He has managed to get his union jack in though.

SickAndTiredAgain · 13/12/2021 19:17

Oh was his 7pm? What did he say?

Postdatedpandemic · 13/12/2021 19:18

Omicron cases are doubling every 40 hours, in UK and Denmark. We should be at a million cases a day around Christmas and then...

Saucery · 13/12/2021 19:20

@SickAndTiredAgain

Oh was his 7pm? What did he say?
Same as Boris Johnson, but in a more coherent way.
jgw1 · 13/12/2021 19:20

@Postdatedpandemic

Omicron cases are doubling every 40 hours, in UK and Denmark. We should be at a million cases a day around Christmas and then...
The question really is can we ramp it up to 18million before the end of the year.
TokyoSushi · 13/12/2021 22:06

Genuine question, maybe @RedToothBrush or anybody else knows...

What's this about 200,000 cases per day? The figures seem to be bobbing about at about 50/60K ish cases per day. What's the difference? Are they about to rise massively?

RedToothBrush · 13/12/2021 22:14

@TokyoSushi

Genuine question, maybe *@RedToothBrush* or anybody else knows...

What's this about 200,000 cases per day? The figures seem to be bobbing about at about 50/60K ish cases per day. What's the difference? Are they about to rise massively?

Exponential Growth is happening.

Thats why we just went to Level 4.

No idea about actual numbers. Just that they are about to skyrocket.

TokyoSushi · 13/12/2021 22:16

OK so in the next few days they're going to go much, much higher?

Frazzled2207 · 13/12/2021 22:17

@TokyoSushi

Genuine question, maybe *@RedToothBrush* or anybody else knows...

What's this about 200,000 cases per day? The figures seem to be bobbing about at about 50/60K ish cases per day. What's the difference? Are they about to rise massively?

Much debate about this on Twitter.
PM to give 8pm address tonight (Sunday), no new restrictions expected
RedToothBrush · 13/12/2021 22:19

@TokyoSushi

OK so in the next few days they're going to go much, much higher?
Yep. Cases doubling every 40 hours is scary numbers.
TokyoSushi · 13/12/2021 22:23

Oh jeez, Fergus Walsh is just on BBC News saying 200,000 people may well have caught Omicron TODAY, and it'll show in a big increase in the numbers in the next few days, although clearly some of these cases will never be tested for/reported. I knew we had a problem, but I didn't realise it was this big. *Wonders about gin on a Monday...