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PM to give 8pm address tonight (Sunday), no new restrictions expected

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bagofconkers · 12/12/2021 17:03

"As pressure from virus rises, PM will give national address at 8pm tonight, updating the booster programme - sounds like this will NOT include new restrictions"

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Postdatedpandemic · 13/12/2021 22:26

The question really is can we ramp it up to 18million before the end of the year.
They are going to try like their lives depend on it. Have you ever seen all the political leaders sing from the same hymn sheet before?

We're working on a whatever will be will be theory here. There's two duck legs in the freezer and two boxes of UHT milk in the larder. We're all key workers, so life goes on and Christmas is flexible.

Postdatedpandemic · 13/12/2021 22:29

@TokyoSushi I've just discovered Rioja on Monday seems fine.

RedToothBrush · 13/12/2021 22:30

@Postdatedpandemic

The question really is can we ramp it up to 18million before the end of the year. They are going to try like their lives depend on it. Have you ever seen all the political leaders sing from the same hymn sheet before?

We're working on a whatever will be will be theory here. There's two duck legs in the freezer and two boxes of UHT milk in the larder. We're all key workers, so life goes on and Christmas is flexible.

Its pretty much the only sane attitude to have right now.

Nicola Sturgeon is saying more measures are now inevitable.

I am seriously worried about how much of a difference these restrictions can make tbh. Boosters are the only real tangible thing that can do that.

TokyoSushi · 13/12/2021 22:33

Very much agree, get your booster, wear your mask, take sensible precautions and we just have to go with it now. So pleased that I nipped in with my booster at the end of last week, I hope others here aren't having too much trouble.

RedToothBrush · 13/12/2021 23:01

Keep an eye on the number of boosters given today, when the data comes out tomorrow around 4pm.

I'm just looking at the data.
Sat was the highest date so far at 550,253
Yesterday was 397,532
Sunday is usually the quietest day of the week, with it gradually increasing through the week with Saturdays the busiest day.

It should be interesting.

RedToothBrush · 13/12/2021 23:05

@TokyoSushi

Very much agree, get your booster, wear your mask, take sensible precautions and we just have to go with it now. So pleased that I nipped in with my booster at the end of last week, I hope others here aren't having too much trouble.
This is so frustrating. I just keep seeing people younger than me, and who had their first doses (pfizer) later than me, managing to get boosters sooner.
RedToothBrush · 13/12/2021 23:05

@TokyoSushi

Very much agree, get your booster, wear your mask, take sensible precautions and we just have to go with it now. So pleased that I nipped in with my booster at the end of last week, I hope others here aren't having too much trouble.
This is so frustrating. I just keep seeing people younger than me, and who had their first doses (pfizer) later than me, managing to get boosters sooner.
Quartz2208 · 13/12/2021 23:13

I agree Red surely any restrictions now are pointless you cannot hold back a tidal wave merely hope you have battened down the hatches enough
IMO it os either going to get brutal fast and quick or it isn’t and if it isn’t then the numbers will be manageable (if that makes sense)

RedToothBrush · 13/12/2021 23:17

@Quartz2208

I agree Red surely any restrictions now are pointless you cannot hold back a tidal wave merely hope you have battened down the hatches enough IMO it os either going to get brutal fast and quick or it isn’t and if it isn’t then the numbers will be manageable (if that makes sense)
Apparently the vaccine passport is going to require you to be triple jabbed now soon. All this talk of boosters and 'chance to get' makes me think the change will be implemented Jan 1st or immediately after.

That might also drive people to get boosted quickly and queue at walk ins. However I also think it increasingly problematic for people maybe behind the curve with 1st and 2nd jabs already.

RedToothBrush · 13/12/2021 23:46

mobile.twitter.com/M_B_Petersen/status/1470508975284273157
This is a good thread on how omicron needs to be conveyed to the public.

The gist is previously we got a bunch of graphs which showed how we would get through x bit of the pandemic and how and why we were doing what we were doing.

Psychologically we need a new type of graph which effectively 'maps us out' of where we are now.

I think this is perhaps one of the big problems right now - because omicron is so fast moving but we still have so little data about it, its really hard to do these types of predictions much less visualise them.

We ideally need something like a 'booster bend' type graph which goes up every day based on number of jabs done.

Really interesting concept of how we have to have a 'road map' to help us cope. I have to say, that I certainly used similar previously because it helped me feel like we were moving forward and I had an idea of where we were with things.

Right now, I think the uneasy feeling is definitely compounded by that lack of tool to help almost guide and hold onto.

We don't know where this is going. The range of possible scenarios are pretty vast. The dawning realism that schools probably are likely to be at less partly out at some point in Jan is depressing. The uncertainity of the next week, never mind the next 3 or 6 or 9 is unnerving.

I want a comfort graph! A security chart! I might even cuddle it in bed if I get something soon.

HannibalHayeski · 13/12/2021 23:49

"All this talk of boosters and 'chance to get' makes me think the change will be implemented Jan 1st or immediately after."

As I previously mentioned, that's when the full Brexit border controls supposedly come in, so the government will be desperate to hide the disastrous effects of that under Omicron.

Quartz2208 · 14/12/2021 06:55

See that is what I don’t get about worrying about schools back in 3 weeks in January because it is either way it is looking to be a quick tsunami

The real problem with mapping our way out I think is that it is acting quicker than we can get the data. Real world is key but we can only react to that. It’s doubling speed means it could have infected pretty much everyone it can by then (and it won’t effect everyone)

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